- From: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
- Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:28:46 +0200
- To: SWD WG <public-swd-wg@w3.org>
Hi all, Here's a new draft response to Michael on [ISSUE-181]. Please let me know what you think, especialy wrt. formality level! Antoine Dear Michael, Thank you for your comments [1]: """" 1. Non-assignable concepts -------------------------- Classification systems usually contain objects that are, while not being assignable concepts, nonetheless an integral part of the system (not just a display/presentation device), e.g., number spans or - in case of the DDC - so-called "centered entries": T2-486-T2-488 Divisions of Sweden 333.7-333.9 Natural resources and energy A centered entry represents a subject covered by a span of numbers. Centered entries relate notationally coordinate classes together as a single concept. For example, T2-485 represents Sweden; the centered entry T2-486-T2-488 represents the geographic divisions of Sweden. Centered entries are an important part of the structural hierarchy, representing true broader concepts, even though this superordination is not indicated by notation. In addition, as they often contain instructions applicable to all subordinate classes, centered entries cannot be modeled as a skos:Collection, since skos:Collection cannot be part of the concept hierarchy (as defined in 9.6.4). A new class or expanded skos:Collection class is required to allow concept collections like spans or centered entries to be expressed as concepts. """" ------------------------------------------------------------------- If I understand your case correctly, your issue is caused by the constraint that states that instances of skos:Collection cannot be included in concept hierarchies. Otherwise you would just have been able to represent your "centered entities" as instances of this class. But as you noted, we made the choice to clearly distinguish the definition of "groupings" from the one of "semantic networks", and your "centered entities" cannot be modelled as Collections [7]. Additionally, the heading of your comment "non-assignable concepts" hints that another solution would be possible, had we accepted the requirement R-IndexingAndNonIndexingConcepts [2] and proposed a solution to it. Indeed, I guess your "non-assignable" concepts can be likened to what we called "non-indexing concepts". But as the requirement of having an indexing property in SKOS has been dropped in ISSUE-48 [3], we have dropped R-IndexingAndNonIndexingConcepts as well [4]. Note that this was not because the requirement you express is very rare, but because we would rather remain agnostic with respect to how SKOS entities are used (or not) in specific indexing situations, e.g. what property is used to index. As a consequence of these problems having beeing already being extensively discussed, we propose to *close* ISSUE-181 [ISSUE-181], making no change to the existing SKOS documents. We hope that you are able to live with this. Please note that it is however possible to coin a practice for representing centered entities as instances of skos:Concepts, provided you make your own (small) extension to SKOS. The SKOS Primer gives some general hints on the approach [5]. In your case, it is possible to make your own solution to R-IndexingAndNonIndexingConcepts. The following steps should be taken: - first, identify an indexing property you want to use to assign concepts to other resources (e.g. dc:subject). - second, define a subclass of skos:Concept, for instance my:NonAssignableConcept, which is defined as not being usable as the object of statements involving the chosen indexing property. This can be done in OWL, using a property inverse of the indexing property and an appropriate OWL cardinality constraint. I hope this helps. Note that if you agreed with the practice proposed in the second part of this mail, or come with a better solution, we would encourage you to publish a brief best practice note and inform the SKOS community via the mailing list. We'd also be more than happy to set up a "SKOS community best practices" wiki page to collect links to such statements, similar to what has been done for [6]. Best regards, Antoine [ISSUE-181] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/181 [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Oct/0061.html [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/SKOS-UCR#R-IndexingAndNonIndexingConcepts [3] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/48 [4] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/46 [5] http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-skos-primer-20080829/#secskosspecialization [6] http://esw.w3.org/topic/SkosDev/ClassificationPubGuide?rev=12 [7] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/33
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