- From: Alistair Miles <alistair.miles@zoo.ox.ac.uk>
- Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 10:59:10 +0100
- To: Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org>
- Cc: public-swd-wg@w3.org, wai-liaison@w3.org
Dear Al,
Thank you for your detailed and valuable comments. These have been
raised as ISSUE-178, ISSUE-179, ISSUE-180. The SWDWG issue tracker is
online at:
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues
We hope to provide a response by 17 October.
Kind regards,
Alistair Miles
Sean Bechhofer
On Fri, Oct 03, 2008 at 11:18:43PM -0400, Al Gilman wrote:
> <note
> class="inTransmittal">
>
> The following comments have received rough-consensus support
> in the Protocols and Formats Working Group.
>
> We would be glad to discuss them with you if you feel they are
> unclear or inadvisable.
>
> Thank you for your work on SKOS.
>
> Al
> /chair, PFWG
> </note>
>
> Comments on SKOS reference draft in last call [1]:
>
> (1) Re: Section 8: Semantic Relations
>
> We understand that SKOS has been devised to be universally applicable to
> various types of knowledge organization systems, many of which do not
> have semantically clear-cut relations, but are rather inaccurate in their
> meaning. However, there are use cases that would benefit from a stricter
> and richer definition of vocabulary for concept schemes.
>
> For example, the properties for hierarchical relationship (skos:broader,
> skos:narrower) are specified to indicate that ‘one [concept] is in some
> way more general ("broader") than the other ("narrower")’. The primer
> [2] even mentions the subjectivity of these properties: “skos:broader and
> skos:narrower enable the representation of hierarchical links, such as
> the relationship between one genre and its more specific species , or,
> depending on interpretations, the relationship between one whole and its
> parts.” Obviously, one can create custom-defined subproperties, but
> interoperability is much harder to achieve with custom-defined
> subproperties than with pre-defined properties that are part of the SKOS
> core.
>
> At a minimum, it would be helpful to have separate pairs of SKOS core
> properties defined for inheritance relationships (superclass-subclass)
> vs. structural relationships (whole-part). These would be subproperties
> of skos:broader and skos:narrower. So the user would have the choice
> between the (inaccurate) super-properties or the (semantically clearer)
> subproperties.
>
>
> (2) Re Section 5. Lexical Labels
>
> The motivation for the Integrity Conditions listed in section 5.4. (S13
> and S14) is not clear. They appear to be overly constraining and badly
> aligned with the architecture of distributed systems, where labels could
> come from different sources and authors, and where redundancies may
> arise. Why is it okay to have no preferred label defined, but it is a
> clash to have the same string as preferred and alternate label?
>
> A SKOS application should be able to deal with situations where there
> are competing preferred labels, or one label being redundantly defined as
> “preferred” and “alternate”. These situations should not make the SKOS
> application fail.
>
>
> (3) Re Appendix A.2. The skosxl:Label Class
>
> The new “label framework” goes in the right direction, but does not go
> far enough.
>
> The skos:hiddenLabel property is considered to be useful for
> accessibility-related use cases (where misspellings may occur).
>
> The new properties skos:prefLabel and skos:altLabel conflict with
> dc:title. In fact, these properties co-exist in examples of the SKOS
> reference. Guidance is missing as to when to use the skos-defined label
> properties, and when to use dc:title.
>
> The label framework should explicitly cater for non-textual labels in
> image, audio or video format, and as provided in other markup languages
> such as MathML. Labels in other modalities may serve as alternate labels
> in accessibility-related use cases. SKOS should provide guidance as to
> how to provide images, audio and video content as alternate labels.
> Currently, icons are being standardized as representing concepts in an
> upcoming multi-part standard ISO/IEC 11581, developed by ISO/IEC JTC1
> SC35. SKOS should be able to specify these icons as part of a knowledge
> organization system.
>
> Also, the most common label relationships should be pre-defined by SKOS.
> This should include: skos:acronym, skos:pronunciation.
>
> References:
> 1. SKOS Reference, http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-skos-
> reference-20080829/
> 2. SKOS Primer, http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-skos-primer-20080829/
>
>
--
Alistair Miles
Senior Computing Officer
Image Bioinformatics Research Group
Department of Zoology
The Tinbergen Building
University of Oxford
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Oxford
OX1 3PS
United Kingdom
Web: http://purl.org/net/aliman
Email: alistair.miles@zoo.ox.ac.uk
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