- From: Sini, Margherita (KCEW) <Margherita.Sini@fao.org>
- Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:32:39 +0200
- To: Thomas Baker <baker@sub.uni-goettingen.de>, SWD Working Group <public-swd-wg@w3.org>
The minutes of yesterday meeting are at http://www.w3.org/2008/06/17-swd-minutes.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- W3C SWD WG 17 Jun 2008 Agenda See also: IRC log, previous 2008-06-10 Attendees Present Margherita Sini, Tom Baker, Ralph Swick, Alistair Miles, Jon Phipps, Antoine Isaac, Ben Adida, Sean Bechhofer Regrets Daniel Rubin, Vit Novacek, Ed Summers, Guus Schreiber, Elisa Kendall Chair Tom Scribe Margherita Sini Contents * Topics 1. ADMIN 2. SKOS 3. Issue 83 4. Issues 72, 73, 75 5. RDFa 6. RECIPES * Summary of Action Items ADMIN next week the last regular conference scheduled Guus in charge in summer no teleconferences but wrap-up sessions to discuss next week propose to accept meeting of last teleconf actions on the last minutes fixed no objections --> accepted SKOS <scribe> ACTION: Ed to investigate what text could be added to primer re. concept co-ordination [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/22-swd-minutes.html#action02] <scribe> ACTION: Guus to write primer text re: broaderGeneric and equivalence w/r/t subclass [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/18-swd-minutes.html#action08] <scribe> ACTION: Alistair to check the old namespace wrt dereferencing [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action03] Antoine: should we have skos ontology .... donwloadable? ralph?: there is a url to go to Antoine: owl file should be available Tom: good to have action to define how different products will be made available ralph?: recipes should be enough ? alistar: ok if there is a link on the pages ralph: maybe people can be confused by namespaces and other links tom: owl file should be somewhere.... sean: can i access the owl file from my browser? ... as a user why should i access the owl file? alistar: users want to download it ... and look it locally ... should be possible to do that antoine: url should be available with the receipt tom: maybe people would like to point to the owl file directly ... even to cite it ralph: if there is the uri to retrieve the owl then we have to tell why is different from namespace ... is the uri normative, informative,... ? <Ralph> Margherita: in FAO we redirect the namespace to the OWL file tom?: the question is the owl file has a uri? and if is persistent ? and why not make that uri visible for people that wants to refer to it <JonP> skos owl uri: http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-skos-reference-20080609/skos.rdf ralph: we haven't decided yes if uri should be persistent .... <JonP> and that uri returns owl in the browser ralph: i think that we are realizing that this case we need to address as deployment group ... we should think about what is our advice... <Zakim> aliman, you wanted to mention http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/history and publishing uris tom: the uri is not a secret so we should write it in the document <seanb> +1 to Ralph's comments re secrets. <Ralph> Ralph: the URI is not a secret. What I object to without further discussion is writing down that URI in a document. <Tom> aliman, the page looks good \me (sorry i cannot hear well alistar) <Antoine> http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/vocabs antoine: what about vocabulary page.... alistar: has generic uris ... ... in the rdf vocab page you have a link the url redirect to latest version ralph?: ... there is grey area in the middle between ??? tom: who is maintaining the 2004/02/skos space? ralph: alistar + others tom: there is going to be changes ... to skos material so there will be few changes to this web space ... so should be clear to user the new namespace and that the old namespace will stay there ... we need an action so we can back to this topic ... to decide what is the best reccomandation ... alistar is ok to work on that? alistar: yes tom: we need action about linking directly to owl file ... what is best practice Alistar: suggest to update vocabulary page ... <Ralph> Tabulator; an RDF browser plugin for FireFox antoine: ideally would be better that tool could manage ?? tom: let's wrap up <scribe> ACTION: Alistar to update the history page adding direct link to latest version of rdf triple [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/17-swd-minutes.html#action01] Ralph: refer to history page <scribe> ACTION: Antoine and Ed to add content to Primer about irreflexivity [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action06] <Ralph> ACTION: [DONE] Ralph compose intermediate pages for http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-skos-core-spec and http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-skos-core-guide/ to inform readers of the paths to the old and new SKOS documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action02] <scribe> ACTION: Sean and Alistair to send a file for the namespace [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/17-swd-minutes.html#action08] <scribe> ACTION: Sean to write a proposal to indicate to OWL WG our requirements for annotation properties [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action04] <scribe> ACTION: Editors of the Use Cases to clean up the lists of requirements in light of resolutions [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/07-swd-minutes.html#action02] <aliman> ralph, I've reviewed the intermediate skos pages, they look fine to me. <Ralph> [Antoine, if you're referring to the difference between "SKOS Simple Knowledge Organization System Primer" in the title and "SKOS -- Simple Knowledge Organisation System" in the abstract, that's how it appears in http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-skos-primer-20080221/ -- I can change the intermediate page either way you like :) <Ralph> ACTION: [DONE] Margherita to liase with primer authors about example using plain literals and some with datatype literals [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/20-swd-minutes.html#action17] <Ralph> Margherita: I don't see a need for translating symbols now <Ralph> ... I'll have another look and send email later today <Ralph> 6.5.4. Notations and Preferred Labels <Ralph> Alistair: I added section 6.5.4 to the SKOS Reference after our discussion on symbolic labels <Ralph> ... see the prose before Example 22 Issue 83 Alistar: no objection on the proposal <seanb> Sean: should make it clear that the properties are not inverses. tom: propose to resolve issue 83 RESOLUTION: to close Issue 83 as proposed in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008May/0068.html Issues 72, 73, 75 <scribe> ACTION: Guus to mail his position on issues 72, 73 and 75 to the list [CONTINUES] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-swd-minutes.html#action25] RDFa <scribe> ACTION: Ben to prepare draft implementation report for RDFa (with assistance from Michael) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14] [CONTINUES] <scribe> ACTION: Ralph to draft to draft the RDFa transition request [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/10-swd-minutes.html#action02] [DONE] RECIPES <scribe> ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20] [CONTINUES] <scribe> ACTION: Jon and Ralph to publish Recipes as Working Group Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/10-swd-minutes.html#action03] Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Alistar to update the history page adding direct link to latest version of rdf triple [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/17-swd-minutes.html#action01] [PENDING] ACTION: Ed to investigate what text could be added to primer re. concept co-ordination [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/22-swd-minutes.html#action02] [PENDING] ACTION: Guus to write primer text re: broaderGeneric and equivalence w/r/t subclass [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/18-swd-minutes.html#action08] [PENDING] ACTION: Alistair to check the old namespace wrt dereferencing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action03] [PENDING] ACTION: Antoine and Ed to add content to Primer about irreflexivity [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action06] [PENDING] ACTION: Sean to write a proposal to indicate to OWL WG our requirements for annotation properties [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action07] [PENDING] ACTION: Editors of the Use Cases to clean up the lists of requirements in light of resolutions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/07-swd-minutes.html#action02] [PENDING] ACTION: Guus to mail his position on issues 72, 73 and 75 to the list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/13-swd-minutes.html#action25] [PENDING] ACTION: Ben to prepare draft implementation report for RDFa (with assistance from Michael) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14] [PENDING] ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20] [PENDING] ACTION: Jon and Ralph to publish Recipes as Working Group Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/10-swd-minutes.html#action03] [DONE] ACTION: Ralph compose intermediate pages [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action02] [DONE] ACTION: Sean and Alistair to send a file for the namespace [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action04] [DONE] ACTION: Margherita to liase with primer authors about example using plain literals and some with datatype literals [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/20-swd-minutes.html#action17] [DONE] ACTION: Ralph compose intermediate pages for http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-skos-core-spec and http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-skos-core-guide/ to inform readers of the paths to the old and new SKOS documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/06-swd-minutes.html#action02] [DONE] ACTION: Ralph to draft to draft the RDFa transition request [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/10-swd-minutes.html#action02] [End of minutes] Minutes formatted by David Booth's scribe.perl version 1.133 (CVS log) $Date: 2008/06/17 18:08:16 $
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