- From: Ralph R. Swick <swick@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:46:36 -0400
- To: public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org, public-swd-wg@w3.org
Thanks to Manu for taking the minutes of today's RDFa telecon [1].
[1] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/12-rdfa-minutes.html
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RDF in XHTML Task Force
12 Jun 2008
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Jun/0065.html
See also: [3]IRC log, previous [4]2008-06-05
[3] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/12-rdfa-irc
[4] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/05-rdfa-minutes
Attendees
Present
Shane McCarron, Manu Sporny, Ben Adida, Ralph Swick
Regrets
Mark Birbeck, Michael Hausenblas, Steven Pemberton
Chair
Ben Adida
Scribe
Manu Sporny
Contents
* Topics
1. XHTML Modularization
2. Action Items
3. Test Cases
4. Disposition of Comments
* Summary of Action Items
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XHTML Modularization
ShaneM: Quick update on Modularization
ShaneM: should go to PR today
... Modularization 1.1 includes a schema implementation, we
shouldn't change our doc yet.
... We should announce this on rdfa.info
Action Items
ACTION: [DONE] Manu complete test suite [by Thursday 12 June]
[recorded in
[11]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action07]
[11] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action07
ACTION: Mark to tweak paragraph 3.9 of the spec on fragments.
[recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action09] [DONE]
[12] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action09
ACTION: Ralph confirm whether LGPL is ok with W3C [recorded in
[13]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action03]
[CONTINUES]
[13] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action03
ACTION: Ralph to help Ben with Last Call Comment report [recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action08]
[CONTINUES]
[14] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action08
ACTION: Shane produce a CR-ready draft for SWD and XHTML2 WGs to
approve [recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action10] [DONE]
[15] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action10
ACTION: Ben followup with Fabien on getting his RDFa GRDDL transform
transferred to W3C [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]
[CONTINUES]
[16] http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#action01
ACTION: Manu to reach out to Slashdot and attempt to get RDFa
integrated into Slashdot. [recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action10]
[CONTINUES]
[17] http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action10
ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded
in [18]http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
[CONTINUES]
[18] http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action12
ACTION: Manu to determine which useless-triples test cases to remove
and which to add. [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] [DONE]
[19] http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action12
Test Cases
[20]rdfa-test-harness
[20] http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/rdfa-test-harness/
Manu: tests 107, 108, and 109 were already in the suite but hadn't
been committed
... so I sent duplicate numbers in recent email
-- Test #107: no garbage collecting bnodes
Manu: 107, 108, 109, 110, and 111 all pass 3 of the implementations
... 107 sets up the multiple bnode [not] garbage collecting
... 107 checks that there is no bnode created by this hanging @rel
<ShaneM> Seems fine
RESOLUTION: test 107 accepted
-- Test #108: plain literal with datatype="" and xml:lang preservation
Manu: I believe we had accepted this but I could not find a record
... 108 tests that lang is preserved
... we had previously decided not to test whitespace preservation
... but this test does also include whitespace preservation
... I don't think it hurts
Ralph: we should not change it to the alternative; collapsed
whitespace
Manu: also uses UTF-8 string
Shane: I noted that the N-triples spec requires escaping of Unicode
Ben: N-triples and N3 are parsed differently
RESOLUTION: test 108 accepted
-- Test #109: Tests to ensure @xml:base is ignored
Manu: 109 was on hold because it's not valid XHTML
... because it uses xml:base
... it is well-formed, however
Ben: I think it's OK to have a test like this; people will add
non-XHTML attributes
Ralph: can we move the comment to preceed HEAD?
<ShaneM> looks fine
Ralph: forget it; the comment is in the right place
RESOLUTION: test 109 accepted
-- Test #110: bNode generated even though no nested @about exists
Manu: inner DIV causes the object for the containing DIV to be
completed with a bnode
... we're testing that only one bnode is generated
Ben: is there no way to test that a second triple is absent?
... I don't really think we need to add such a test; 107 is
sufficient
Manu: we've stated no extra triples should be generated in the
default graph but the tests will pass if there are extra triples
Ben: except for the negative tests
<ShaneM> +1
RESOLUTION: test 110 accepted
-- Test #111: two bNodes generated after three levels of nesting
Manu: 111 is another like 110; here, we do generate 2 related bnodes
<ShaneM> +1
RESOLUTION: test 111 accepted
<ShaneM> and XHTML M12N PR is up!
-- Test 112 (new)
<msporny> [21]OLD_0107.xhtml
[21] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/OLD_0107.xhtml
<msporny> [22]OLD_0107.sparql
[22] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/OLD_0107.sparql
Manu: rename this to test 112
... it is like 108 but doesn't use Greek
RESOLUTION: (new) test 112 accepted
<ShaneM> huzzah!
Ralph: can we host the test harness on w3.org now or is that going
to be too inconvenient for you, Manu?
Manu: should be ok to move now. I'll make you some instructions
... only uses python
Ralph: ok. If it's easy, I think we should host it at w3.org just to
deflect possible questions
Disposition of Comments
<RalphS> [23]RDFa in XHTML 1.1 Last Call Disposition of Comments
[23] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/last-call-issues
Ben: This URL is an XSLT of the datadump
... I'll have to go through and clean it up
... all issues are closed
... Except for TimBL's comments.
... everyone has responded positively
<ShaneM> nice.
Ben: Is this pretty much done Ralph?
Ralph: More or less.
Ben: It'll be cleaned up, of course.
<ShaneM> fwiw the xhtml 2 working group doesn't ever clean up the
data
<ShaneM> we just put in a caveat that the issues might have typos
and they belong to the submitters
Ben: Is it important to see what the commenter said and whether we
agree with it or not?
Ralph: we need to record that somehow, yes.
Ben: We should make it contain RDFa.
<ShaneM> about="tracker issue URI"
Ben: What's the process for scheduling with Steve?
<ShaneM> has the SWD approved the CR transition
Ralph: I'll notify him.
Ben: This should be done by Sunday night.
<benadida> [24]http://ben.adida.net/busy/
[24] http://ben.adida.net/busy/
Ralph: hopefully we'll hear back from Tim before then.
... Is the primer completely done?
Ben: It didn't get voted on did it?
Ralph: It did get voted on.
Ben: I would like to do one last pass for typos.
Ralph: Typos shouldn't be an issue.
Ben: Nothing significant is going to change.
Ralph: We don't need it for the transition call.
... We're trying to get both documents in the publication request.
Ben: I'll make a pass by Mon/Tues at the latest.
Summary of Action Items
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben followup with Fabien on getting his RDFa GRDDL
transform transferred to W3C [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Manu to reach out to Slashdot and attempt to get
RDFa integrated into Slashdot. [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action10]
[PENDING] ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki
[recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph confirm whether LGPL is ok with W3C
[recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph to help Ben with Last Call Comment report
[recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action08]
[25] http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#action01
[26] http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action10
[27] http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action12
[28] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action03
[29] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action08
[DONE] ACTION: Manu complete test suite [by Thursday 12 June]
[recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action07]
[DONE] ACTION: Manu to determine which useless-triples test cases to
remove and which to add. [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
[DONE] ACTION: Mark to tweak paragraph 3.9 of the spec on fragments.
[recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action09]
[DONE] ACTION: Shane produce a CR-ready draft for SWD and XHTML2 WGs
to approve [recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action10]
[30] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action07
[31] http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action12
[32] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action09
[33] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action10
[End of minutes]
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