- From: Ralph R. Swick <swick@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:20:12 -0400
- To: public-swd-wg@w3.org, public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org
The record [1] of today's RDF-in-XHTML Task Force telecon is
available for review. Thanks to Manu for scribing.
[1] http://www.w3.org/2008/08/14-rdfa-minutes.html
A text snapshot follows.
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RDF-in-XHTML Task Force
14 Aug 2008
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Aug/0053.html
See also: [3]IRC log, previous [4]2008-08-07
[3] http://www.w3.org/2008/08/14-rdfa-irc
[4] http://www.w3.org/2008/08/07-rdfa-minutes.html
Attendees
Present
Manu Sporny, Michael Hausenblas, Ben Adida, Ralph Swick,
Steven Pemberton, Shane McCarron
Regrets
Mark Birbeck
Chair
Ben Adida
Scribe
Manu Sporny
Contents
* Topics
1. Action Items
2. Implementation Report
3. ISSUE-122
4. ISSUE-125
* Summary of Action Items
_____________________________________________________
<mhausenblas> I got a bit of a scheduling issue here today ... can
only stay around till half-past, latest. sorry ...
<ShaneM> "know of know" ?
<Ralph> oops
<Ralph> finger-brain glitch
<Ralph> "know of no" of course
<mhausenblas> [11]http://torrez.us/code/rdfa-js/tests/
[11] http://torrez.us/code/rdfa-js/tests/
Action Items
Michael: Is the RDFa test harness ready for client-side stuff?
benadida: It's not entirely correct for negative tests.
... If they overestimate how good the parser is, it wouldn't be
good.
Michael: I can integrate it on Monday.
benadida: That would be a good goal.
... Let's talk about IR, wrapping up ISSUE-122 and ISSUE-125
... any other outstanding issues?
ACTION: Michael check tests 52 and 53 with Manu [recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]
[WITHDRAWN]
[12] http://www.w3.org/2008/08/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action01
Michael: I talked about this with Fabien.
... [13]Fabien clarified that he was looking at the manifest comment
not at the spec
[13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Aug/0030.html
ACTION: Michael to update Test Suite Manifest to correct tests 52
and 53 descriptions. [recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/14-rdfa-minutes.html#action02]
ACTION: Ben to contact Ed and Diego about new editors drafts coming
down the pipe. [recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]
[CONTINUES]
[15] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action01
ACTION: Manu to create test cases for testing relative URI
resolution (href/CURIEs/etc). [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action22]
[CONTINUES]
[16] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action22
ACTION: Mark to update RDFa Syntax document, section 5.4.2 to be
explicit about which algorithm is used to resolve relative URIs.
[recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action21] [DONE]
[17] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action21
ACTION: Michael to complete implementation report and send out
notification to all working groups. [recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action20]
[CONTINUES]
[18] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action20
ACTION: Ralph to work with Ben on proposing specific editorial
changes to RDFa Syntax document based on ISSUE-122. [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action23] [DONE]
[19] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action23
ACTION: Ben to log all CR issues to tracker [recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action01] [DONE]
[20] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action01
ACTION: Ben to talk to Alan about CR ISSUE-122 [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]
[WITHDRAWN]
[21] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action15
Ralph: Do you want to talk to him before or after PR?
benadida: After should be fine.
Ralph: Then we should drop this?
benadida: yep,
<mhausenblas> +1
ACTION: Ben to update Primer according to resolution, and add note
about "it was designed to eventually work in HTML, etc..." [recorded
in [22]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action20]
[DONE]
[22] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action20
ACTION: Jeremy to demonstrate GRDDL with XHTML/RDFa once the NS URI
is set up. [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action07]
[CONTINUES]
[23] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action07
ACTION: Shane to start a wiki page for HTML4/5 [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action21]
[CONTINUES]
[24] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action21
reassigned from Manu to Shane
ACTION: Manu write the perl code for Slashdot [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action03]
[CONTINUES]
[25] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action03
ACTION: Manu: Start Best Practices Section on the rdfa.info wiki
[recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/17-rdfa-minutes.html#action16]
[CONTINUES]
[26] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/17-rdfa-minutes.html#action16
ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
[CONTINUES]
[27] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action12
ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action07]
[CONTINUES]
[28] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action07
ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded
in [29]http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
[CONTINUES]
[29] http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action12
ACTION: Michael to rewrite and extend
[30]http://rdfa.info/wiki/Tutorials for RSS (maybe with seq)
[recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action08]
[CONTINUES]
[30] http://rdfa.info/wiki/Tutorials
[31] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action08
<mhausenblas> [32]http://sw.joanneum.at/rdfa/rss/
[32] http://sw.joanneum.at/rdfa/rss/
ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]
[CONTINUES]
[33] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action11
ACTION: Ralph to make [34]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/rdfa-xslt happen
[recorded in
[35]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action05]
[CONTINUES]
[34] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/rdfa-xslt
[35] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action05
ACTION: Shane to update XHTML ns document to point to new XSLT URI
[recorded in
[36]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action06]
[CONTINUES]
[36] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action06
ACTION: Shane to write home page for SPREAD. [recorded in
[37]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
[CONTINUES]
[37] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action12
Implementation Report
benadida: Are you missing stuff from me, Michael?
... Do you have the link for SPREAD?
... anything else you need?
Michael: Would be good if somebody could go through the entire
document.
... If somebody wanted to fill out section 4 more, that would be
good.
<mhausenblas>
[38]http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/implementation-report/
[38] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/implementation-report/
benadida: I need to fix up the EARL report.
... for the client side stuff.
... client side (Javascript) RDFa parsers.
Michael: I just need the client side Javascript EARL reports.
ShaneM: What's happening monday?
Michael: We promised to have Implementation Report to SWD by
Tuesday, Aug. 19th.
ShaneM: So, are we preparing a PR draft for Tuesday?
benadida: As far as content goes, yes, that is the goal.
... Is that an issue or a blocker with that?
ShaneM: No, just that the PR document has a different status
section.
Ralph: The internal editors draft is fine.
... We'll change the status section when both workgroups want to
move the document forward to PR.
benadida: Yes.
Michael: Anything else?
benadida: Nope, I'll get the Javascript implementation EARL reports
to you.
Ralph: You're okay with Test 31? Canonicalization not required?
Michael: Yes.
Michael: There's [39]the link explaining it.
[39] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Aug/0056.html
<ShaneM> can you confirm the imp report will be at
[40]http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/implementation-report
[40] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/implementation-report
<mhausenblas> yes, Shane I confirm it hereby
[Michael departs]
ISSUE-122
benadida: Ralph, you had a lot of suggestions and they all sounded
great.
benadida: Shane pointed out that one of them was a "maybe".
Ralph: In the latest editors draft
<Ralph> [41]current editor's draft
[41] http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-rdfa-syntax-20080812/
<Ralph> [42]ED-rdfa-syntax-20080812/#s_rdfaindetail
[42] http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-rdfa-syntax-20080812/#s_rdfaindetail
<Ralph> [43]ED-rdfa-syntax-20080812/#sec_5.5.
[43] http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-rdfa-syntax-20080812/#sec_5.5.
Ralph: Where the @@@ is
... That's not where it should be.
Ralph: I asked if adding the parethesis helped at all?
... I think they definitely don't help in section 5.5.
... Don't think it hurts in section 6.
benadida: It's good to have because it's precise.
... That seemed to be the only point of contention.
... But that looks good.
Manu: No comments.
Steven: No comments.
<Steven> No comments
benadida: So the change at the end of section 2 looks good to me.
... CreativeCommons is recommending rel="license" instead of
rel="cc:license"
Ralph: Only one example of it, let's change it.
benadida: We should respond to ISSUE-122 with Ralph's proposed draft
tweaked with what we've discussed.
Ralph: I can update it based on what we discussed and send it out.
<benadida> ACTION: Ben and Manu to test implementations on step 9
(no child nodes with @property) [recorded in
[44]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/14-rdfa-minutes.html#action23]
benadida: I think the wording is correct, so that looks good for the
change to step 9.
Manu: That looks correct.
<benadida> PROPOSE: to respond to ISSUE-122 with Ralph's draft,
tweaked with today's conclusions regarding moving comment to Section
6, tweaking the last example in Section 2, and confirming the step 9
no child nodes situation.
<Ralph> +1
<Manu> +1
<Steven> +1
ShaneM: +1
ACTION: Ralph to send note to Alan regarding ISSUE-122 resolution
[recorded in
[45]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/14-rdfa-minutes.html#action24]
RESOLUTION: Ralph to respond to ISSUE-122 with Ralph's draft,
tweaked with today's conclusions regarding moving comment to Section
6, tweaking the last example in Section 2, and confirming the step 9
no child nodes situation.
ISSUE-125
benadida: This has to do with us mentioning @name in the syntax
document. It doesn't appear anywhere else in the document.
Ralph: Yes.
ShaneM: Yes.
Ralph: It is a "dinosaur bone".
<benadida> PROPOSE: remove @name from section 2.1 of syntax, as it
has no impact on output of RDFa parser.
<Manu> +1
<Ralph> +1
<Steven> +1
<ShaneM> +1
RESOLUTION: remove @name from section 2.1 of syntax, as it has no
impact on output of RDFa parser.
<Ralph> Champagne time! All Issues Closed
ACTION: Shane to respond to ISSUE-125 on mailing list [recorded in
[46]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/14-rdfa-minutes.html#action25]
benadida: I believe that is everything, any other issues for PR or
anything else?
<ShaneM> [47]ED-rdfa-syntax-20080814/
[47] http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-rdfa-syntax-20080814/
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Ben and Manu to test implementations on step 9 (no
child nodes with @property) [recorded in
[48]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/14-rdfa-minutes.html#action23]
[NEW] ACTION: Michael to update Test Suite Manifest to correct tests
52 and 53 descriptions. [recorded in
[49]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/14-rdfa-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Ralph to send note to Alan regarding ISSUE-122
resolution [recorded in
[50]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/14-rdfa-minutes.html#action24]
[NEW] ACTION: Shane to respond to ISSUE-125 on mailing list
[recorded in
[51]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/14-rdfa-minutes.html#action25]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to contact Ed and Diego about new editors
drafts coming down the pipe. [recorded in
[52]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Jeremy to demonstrate GRDDL with XHTML/RDFa once
the NS URI is set up. [recorded in
[53]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: Manu to create test cases for testing relative URI
resolution (href/CURIEs/etc). [recorded in
[54]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action22]
[PENDING] ACTION: Manu write the perl code for Slashdot [recorded in
[55]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: Manu: Start Best Practices Section on the
rdfa.info wiki [recorded in
[56]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/17-rdfa-minutes.html#action16]
[PENDING] ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning
[recorded in
[57]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
[PENDING] ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in
[58]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: Michael to complete implementation report and send
out notification to all working groups. [recorded in
[59]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action20]
[PENDING] ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki
[recorded in
[60]http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
[PENDING] ACTION: Michael to rewrite and extend
[61]http://rdfa.info/wiki/Tutorials for RSS (maybe with seq)
[recorded in
[62]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action08]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in
[63]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph to make
[64]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/rdfa-xslt happen recorded in
[65]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action05]
[PENDING] ACTION: Shane to start a wiki page for HTML4/5 [recorded
in [66]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action21]
[PENDING] ACTION: Shane to update XHTML ns document to point to new
XSLT URI [recorded in
[67]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: Shane to write home page for SPREAD. [recorded in
[68]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
[52] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action01
[53] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action07
[54] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action22
[55] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action03
[56] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/17-rdfa-minutes.html#action16
[57] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action12
[58] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action07
[59] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action20
[60] http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action12
[61] http://rdfa.info/wiki/Tutorials
[62] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action08
[63] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action11
[64] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/rdfa-xslt
[65] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action05
[66] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action21
[67] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action06
[68] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action12
[DONE] ACTION: Ben to log all CR issues to tracker [recorded in
[69]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]
[DONE] ACTION: Ben to update Primer according to resolution, and add
note about "it was designed to eventually work in HTML, etc..."
[recorded in
[70]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action20]
[DONE] ACTION: Mark to update RDFa Syntax document, section 5.4.2 to
be explicit about which algorithm is used to resolve relative URIs.
[recorded in
[71]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action21]
[DONE] ACTION: Ralph to work with Ben on proposing specific
editorial changes to RDFa Syntax document based on ISSUE-122.
[recorded in
[72]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action23]
[69] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action01
[70] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/24-rdfa-minutes.html#action20
[71] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action21
[72] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/31-rdfa-minutes.html#action23
[WITHDRAWN] ACTION: Ben to talk to Alan about CR ISSUE-122 [recorded
in [73]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]
[WITHDRAWN] ACTION: Michael check tests 52 and 53 with Manu
[recorded in
[74]http://www.w3.org/2008/08/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]
[73] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action15
[74] http://www.w3.org/2008/08/07-rdfa-minutes.html#action01
[End of minutes]
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