- From: Hausenblas, Michael <michael.hausenblas@joanneum.at>
- Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:04:40 +0200
- To: "SWD WG" <public-swd-wg@w3.org>
All,
The record of yesterday's SWD WG telecon [1] is ready for review.
A summary of the agenda and action items follows.
[1] http://www.w3.org/2007/06/26-swd-minutes.html
Topics
1. ADMIN
2. SKOS
3. RECIPES
4. VOCABULARY MANAGEMENT
5. RDFa
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Alistair to post the proposed resolution to ISSUE-33 and
systematic display to the list [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/06/26-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to Recipe issue 1.3 [recorded
in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action09]
[DONE] ACTION: aliman to provide examples of cases where presentational
information is required [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/06/19-swd-minutes.html#action10]
[DONE] ACTION: Ralph to update SKOS pages to point to UCR [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/06/05-swd-minutes.html#action01]
[DONE] ACTION: seanb to create the template for test cases in the wiki
[recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/19-swd-minutes.html#action04]
The full text of the minutes reads as follows.
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Semantic Web Deployment Working Group - Telecon 2007-06-26, 15:00 UTC
26 Jun 2007
Agenda [1]
See also: IRC log [2], previous 2007-06-19 [3]
[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jun/0151.html
[2] http://www.w3.org/2007/06/26-swd-irc
[3] http://www.w3.org/2007/06/19-swd-minutes
Attendees
Present
Tom Baker, Michael Hausenblas, Ralph Swick, Clay Redding, Bernard,
Diego Berrueta,
Jon Phipps, Justin Thorp , Antoine Isaac, Elisa Kendall, Sean
Bechhofer,
Alistair Miles, Vit Novacek, Daniel Rubin
Regrets
Simone Onofri, Ed Summers, Guus Schreiber
Chair
Tom Baker
Scribe
Michael Hausenblas, Ralph Swick
Contents
Topics
1. ADMIN
2. SKOS
3. RECIPES
4. VOCABULARY MANAGEMENT
5. RDFa
Summary of Action Items
<mhausenblas> Agenda:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jun/0151.html
<mhausenblas> previous 2007-06-19
<mhausenblas> ScribeNick: Michael_Hausenblas
<mhausenblas> ScribeNick: mhausenblas
<TomB> Meeting: SWD WG
<TomB> Chair: Tom
<RalphS> kudos, Michael, for preparing the agents well before the start
of the meeting :)
<TomB> RalphS, my command Chair: Tom was captured as a comment in
http://www.w3.org/2007/06/26-swd-minutes.html , not as a command...?
1. ADMIN
PROPOSED to accept minutes of ->
http://www.w3.org/2007/06/19-swd-minutes.html 19 June telecon
RESOLUTION: accepted minutes of 19 June
upcoming telecon: 3 July
Tom: face-to-face meeting
2. SKOS
See SKOS
<scribe> ACTION: aliman to provide examples of cases where
presentational information is required [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/06/19-swd-minutes.html#action10] [DONE]
<scribe> ACTION: seanb to create the template for test cases in the wiki
[recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/19-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[DONE]
<aliman> discussion of presentation information and defining the scope
of SKOS
<TomB> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosTestTemplate
Tom: Discussion on SKOS implementation on list
... postpone till next week
<scribe> ACTION: Ralph to update SKOS pages to point to UCR [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/06/05-swd-minutes.html#action01] [DONE]
<RalphS> Re: [SKOS] Links to SKOS UCR WD [ACTION completed]
-- Issue-26: RelationshipsBetweenLabels
(http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/26)
Tom: Talked with Guus; he wants to follow up on the proposal
... any comments, yet?
Antoine: Usability issues
Issue-33: Grouping Construct
(http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/33)
Alistair: Made a proposal, waiting for feedback
... to sum up: discussed two well known ways of display
... alphabetic or systematic
... proposed therefore two statements
sorry I got no signals, here :(
can't here anyone
<RalphS> scribenick: Ralhp
<RalphS> scribenick: RalphS
Alistair: I proposed the statement "The WG MAY publish an algorithm to
generate a systematic display"
<aliman> Styles and Periods
<aliman> <styles and periods by region>
<aliman> <The Islamic World>
<aliman> Saracenic
<aliman> pre-Islamic
<aliman> <Islamic World dynastic styles and periods>
<aliman> Orthodox Caliphate
<aliman> Umayyad
<aliman> Abbasid
Alistair: so taking Antoine's challenge example with nested node labels,
... if we accept the resolution for grouping constructs you could
specify an algorith to generate this nesting display
... many thesauri may have to generate this display in parallel anyway
because there are so many techniques for doing so
... we could propose an algorithm for generating a default display
... but many thesauri may choose to send their own display information
outside of SKOS because they have their own preferred display
<scribe> scribenick: mhausenblas
Bernard: What style of information in SKOS
Alistair: Algorithm for default generation, but do not expect SKOS to do
everything
... requirements are to represent the model
<aliman>
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/PresentationInformation
Tom: Aim is to agree on statements?
<aliman> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SKOS/Semantics/Grouping
<RalphS> Alistair: I am proposing SKOS/Semantics/Grouping as the
resolution for ISSUE-33
<aliman>
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/PresentationInformation
<scribe> ACTION: Alistair to post the proposed resolution to ISSUE-33
and systematic display to the list [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/06/26-swd-minutes.html#action04]
Tom: Discussion on relation foaf:Person and skos:Concept -
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jun/0115.html
... any comments?
Antoine: Kjetil wants to link tag to description and/or person
... might be possible to do via defined property
Alistair: Daniel and I had a discussion some while ago
... some kind of solution is layers of indirections
... we have not got any UC for this req
<Antoine>
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jun/0077.html
Alistair: we should put it on the agenda, anyway
... question also tackles if we stay within OWL-DL
Tom: No core issue ... Antoine?
Antoine: For example in the medical domain, I gathered some interest
<RalphS> Clay: Librarians would be interested in this capability as well
Alistair: In scope
... it is important (cf. design patterns)
Tom: So, we put SKOS semantics on the agenda
Bern: Is it really in scope or better have it as a note
<Zakim> aliman, you wanted to say something about the SKOS semantics doc
and to comment on scope
<Zakim> Bern, you wanted to ask if this is in scope
Alistair: Informative document preferred
<RalphS> Alistair: design patterns could be part of the informative
documentaiton
<RalphS> Chair: Tom
3. RECIPES
See Recipes
<scribe> ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to Recipe issue 1.3 [recorded
in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action09] [CONTINUES]
4. VOCABULARY MANAGEMENT
See Vocabulary Management
Current draft is http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/VocabMgtDraft
See Discussion on URLs and URIs
Elisa: We use URIs always, not URLs
... issues: ownership, permanence, etc.
... we use some of the onto URI from the DAML project and encountered
problems
... they seem to no longer work
Ralph: MIT now hosts DAML.org
Elisa: E.g. with OWL-S
... somehow you get to the time onto (from J. Pan)
... a question about commitment
... many discussion on semantic-web@w3
... Idea is to come up with a short list
... of the issues, make a survey
... for now: gather ideas
Tom: What kind of process to apply?
... are telecons good for brainstorming?
... given the limited time
... not - better through mailing list
<Zakim> RalphS, you wanted to ask what "no longer work" means
Elisa: I'd like to use the telecon for raising awareness
Tom: Suggest to point the group to a Wiki page, beforehand
... citing from IRC while discussion
... Might be good to have a default text
... to sum up issues to focus the discussion
<RalphS> Elisa, you suggested that some ontologies on daml.org were no
longer working. Could you followup, please, and let me know if there are
HTTP-level issues (i.e. server problems) or data obsolescence issues
(i.e. a schema or ontology document has gone too far out of date)
5. RDFa
Tom:Ben has reported about the current status via mailing list
<RalphS> An Update on RDFa Schedule and Docs
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Alistair to post the proposed resolution to ISSUE-33 and
systematic display to the list [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/06/26-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to Recipe issue 1.3 [recorded
in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html#action09]
[DONE] ACTION: aliman to provide examples of cases where presentational
information is required [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/06/19-swd-minutes.html#action10]
[DONE] ACTION: Ralph to update SKOS pages to point to UCR [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2007/06/05-swd-minutes.html#action01]
[DONE] ACTION: seanb to create the template for test cases in the wiki
[recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/19-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[End of minutes]
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