- From: Ralph R. Swick <swick@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 13:28:11 -0500
- To: public-swd-wg@w3.org
The record of today's SemWeb Deployment WG telecon is available [1]. A full text snapshot follows below. [1] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-swd-minutes.html Topics 1. Admin 2. Face-to-Face Organizational Issues 3. SKOS Requirements 4. SKOS branding 5. Other Deliverables 6. RDFa 7. Recipes for Publishing RDF Vocabularies 8. Deliverable 3: Principles for Managing RDF Vocabularies (namespaces, change management, versioning) Resolutions: RESOLVED: http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-swd-minutes.html accepted as minutes of 2006-12-19 meeting RESOLVED: next meeting 16 January, 1600 UTC RESOLVED: Alistair's refactoring of SKOS pages can proceed Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Daniel will review RDFa. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-swd-minutes.html#action08] [NEW] ACTION: Diego progress issue COOKBOOK-I1.1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-swd-minutes.html#action10] [NEW] ACTION: RalphS inform group on evening event. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-swd-minutes.html#action02] [PENDING] ACTION: Everyone should be registered for the F2F by 10 Jan [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-swd-minutes.html#action02] [PENDING] ACTION: Guus to review RDFa documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action08] [PENDING] ACTION: Guus/TomB to put item on f2f agenda to make publication decision for RDFa documents (use cases and primer) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action09] [PENDING] ACTION: TomB and Guus to look at proposal for assigning scribe duties [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action01] [DONE] ACTION: Alistair will send the outstanding issues to the list and Jon will paste into the formatted page [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-swd-minutes.html#action05] [DONE] ACTION: Jon to create an issues page on the wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-swd-minutes.html#action07] [DONE] ACTION: Jon will choose one of the three issues pages, create a proposed format, and then post to the list for discussion [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-swd-minutes.html#action11] [DONE] ACTION: Sean to submit SKOS and rules issue using agreed issue format, directly into issues wiki page (waiting for Jon) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action04] [DROPPED] ACTION: Alistair to prepare issues list for January meeting [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/11/28-swd-minutes.html#action06] -Ralph ---- SemWeb Deployment WG 9 Jan 2007 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jan/0008.html See also: [3]IRC log, previous [4]2006-12-19 [3] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-swd-irc [4] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-swd-minutes.html Attendees Present Tom Baker, Ralph Swick, Elisa Kendall, Jon Phipps, Guus Schreiber, Daniel Rubin, Antoine Isaac, Diego Berrueta, Alistair Miles, Bernard Horan, Sean Bechhofer Regrets Ben Adida Chair Guus Scribe Ralph Contents * Topics 1. Admin 2. Face-to-Face Organizational Issues 3. SKOS Requirements 4. SKOS branding 5. Other Deliverables 6. RDFa 7. Recipes for Publishing RDF Vocabularies 8. Deliverable 3: Principles for Managing RDF Vocabularies (namespaces, change management, versioning) * Summary of Action Items ____________________________________________________ <RalphS> Guus: best new year wishes to everyone Admin RESOLVED: [15]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-swd-minutes.html accepted as minutes of 2006-12-19 meeting [15] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-swd-minutes.html RESOLVED: next meeting 16 January, 1600 UTC ACTION: TomB and Guus to look at proposal for assigning scribe duties [recorded in [16]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action01] [CONTINUES] [16] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action01 next scribe: Daniel Face-to-Face Organizational Issues [17]Multi-Group Meeting Logistics [17] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/MGMoverview.html [18]F2F Agenda [18] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Agenda20060122 Guus: we have 8 WG participants registered as of today, with 4 observers RalphS: TBL wants to create Boston SW Users Group. ... since we are convening on Jan 22-23, opportunity to have "pre-launch" event ... so has asked if we could participate on Mon or Tues evening in some event ... could mean short presentations ... or just share hors d'oeuvres Guus: no objections. Diego: not Tues evening Antoine: ok RalphS: ok Bernard: no Alistair: ok Jon: ok both days RalphS: meet for hors d'oeuvres then shorter dinner. Guus: can present. RalphS: Will be Web access - will be in MIT office area. Near WG meeting room. ACTION: RalphS inform group on evening event. [recorded in [19]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-swd-minutes.html#action02] SKOS Requirements ACTION: [WITHDRAWN] Alistair to prepare issues list for January meeting [recorded in [20]http://www.w3.org/2006/11/28-swd-minutes.html#action06] [20] http://www.w3.org/2006/11/28-swd-minutes.html#action06 ACTION: [DONE] Alistair will send the outstanding issues to the list and Jon will paste into the formatted page [recorded in [21]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-swd-minutes.html#action05] [21] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-swd-minutes.html#action05 ACTION: [DONE] Jon to create an issues page on the wiki [recorded in [22]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-swd-minutes.html#action07] [22] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-swd-minutes.html#action07 -> "[23]Cookbook Issues page" [Jon] [23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jan/0000.html Guus: I plan to propose an issues-management process next meeting ACTION: [DONE] Sean to submit SKOS and rules issue using agreed issue format, directly into issues wiki page (waiting for Jon) [recorded in [24]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action04] [24] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action04 Guus:[25]Sean's submission accepted [25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jan/0017.html -> [26]issues process ideas from Ralph [26] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jan/0001.html Ralph: there is another [27]issue tracking tool that is available to the WG ... I will send mail about it today or tomorrow [27] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/ <Zakim> TomB, you wanted to ask where (in the wiki?) we will describe "issues process" <TomB> [28]http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables [28] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Deliverables Tom: do we want to capture the issues process in another wiki document? Jon: I copied the [29]Best Practice Recipes issues process from RIF [29] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/BestPracticeRecipesIssues Ralph: the records of whatever process refinement we agree to after Guus' proposal next week warrant their own Wiki page IMHO Guus: the substance of my proposal is whether to add potential-issues to the wiki before discussion or discuss first then add to the list Daniel: I have received input with feedback for one use case, partial input on a second and am awaiting 2 more ... expect a total of four use cases from me <Antoine> [30]http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RawUCs [30] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RawUCs Antoine: there is a wiki page that sums up the [31]use case descriptions we've received ... the edited use case that Daniel submitted is included there ... with placeholders for others ... I have also cited other use cases that have been mentioned on the WG list ... the idea is to check the correctness of these descriptions w.r.t. the questionnaire then move them to another page [31] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RawUCs <Antoine> [32]http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/EditedUCs [32] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/EditedUCs Antoine: [33]EditedUCs may be more usable for preparation of the document itself [33] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/EditedUCs Daniel: also the [34]BirnLex UC [is ready for EditedUCs] [34] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RucBirnLex Antoine: I wanted the editors to take responsibility for moving items from RawUCs to EditedUCs Guus: we want to have documents for the f2f ready one week in advance ... is it feasible to have a raw SKOS UC document in that time? Antoine: I intend to work on this in the coming week ... prior to that I want to talk about the length of the descriptions ... the existing Use Case documents use shorter descriptions than the ones submitted to us ... should we summarize in our SKOS UC document or would we prefer to keep the full data? Guus: my preference is to keep the full data ... might be nice to have in addition a short summary in terms of SKOS requirements ... perhaps 2 paragraphs that summarize the key points Antoine: I can contribute an icon class use case Daniel: what are the tasks for the editors for this week? Guus: I would like the UCR editors to create a document that includes all the submitted use cases <TomB> [35]http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/EditedUCs [35] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/EditedUCs Ralph: I am quite happy leaving it to the UCR editors' discretion whether or how much to summarize a use case description Daniel: is there a document started already? Antoine: no, just wiki data Guus: just a compilation of responses is fine for now <Zakim> TomB, you wanted to suggest including full data that is edited (e.g., questions removed) to improve readability Tom: there are some things in the [36]raw data that could be omitted just for readability ... e.g. repeating the questions verbatim ... editors can use discretion in dropping repetitive information [36] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RucAims Daniel: I was thinking of an executive summary that captures what is important for SKOS Guus: sounds good SKOS branding -> "[37][SKOS] branding" [Alistair] [37] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2006Dec/0085.html Alistair: the issue is presenting SKOS in a way that is easier to understand ... previously we'd divided SKOS into 3 pieces and the old Web site reflects that division ... I think it makes more sense now to present all of SKOS as one thing, not divide into Core, Vocabulary <aliman> [38]http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/webstage/ [38] http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/webstage/ Alistair: so I'm halfway through refactoring the SKOS website ... to make a single introduction to the area ... any objections to my continuing with this or suggestions? Guus: I had some access issues; should that page be public? Alistair: yes, it should be public -> [39]which W3C mirror are you getting? [39] http://www.w3.org/Help/whereami Ralph: the [40]wereami page may help in diagnosing access problems to the W3C servers [40] http://www.w3.org/Help/whereami RESOLVED: Alistair's refactoring of SKOS pages can proceed Other Deliverables RDFa -> "[41][RDFa] Documents ready for review" [Ben] [41] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jan/0015.html Guus: I volunteered to review these documents ACTION: Guus to review RDFa documents [recorded in [42]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action08] [CONTINUES] [42] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action08 RalphS: In BPD WG, we had two reviewers. Guus: Same process here - two reviewers not involved, then group decides. RalphS: Guus is one reviewer. So essentially Ben is asking for a second reviewer. Guus: For publishing first working draft, need to assess - "is it suitable for discussion with public?" - only RalphS: No minimal definitions. Only real requirement: pass publication rules. Is it reasonable for publication? Guus: At some point, editors say "we think it is ready". Two others send comments. There is a short discussion. Then chairs propose a decision for WG as a whole and WG decides. ... Diff from Recommendation. For WG, only "sufficient info for which we want feedback from public". Don't have to agree on everything. Must be of interest to public. ... Would expect new primer version, and Use Case document, to be good candidates. Bernard: deadline? Guus: pubn decision Jan 22-23 and review in the coming week. ... need one week for process. ... people besides reviewers are welcome to comment. ACTION: Daniel will review RDFa. [recorded in [43]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-swd-minutes.html#action08] Recipes for Publishing RDF Vocabularies ACTION: [DONE] Jon will choose one of the three issues pages, create a proposed format, and then post to the list for discussion [recorded in [44]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-swd-minutes.html#action11] [44] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-swd-minutes.html#action11 -> [45]Cookbook Issues Page [Jon] [45] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Jan/0000.html Jon: I have to add a clarification to an issue that Diego posted Guus: the chairs open [accept] an issue and assign an owner ... is Diego willing to be the owner of issue [46]COOKBOOK-I1.1? [46] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/BestPracticeRecipesIssues#head-7f03e69783008d22f1e9d3ac843f682aa53a4d5e Diego: accepted ACTION: Diego progress issue COOKBOOK-I1.1 [recorded in [47]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-swd-minutes.html#action10] Deliverable 3: Principles for Managing RDF Vocabularies (namespaces, change management, versioning) Guus: leave this for next week or f2f as we're out of time [adjourn] Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Daniel will review RDFa. [recorded in [48]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-swd-minutes.html#action08] [NEW] ACTION: Diego progress issue COOKBOOK-I1.1 [recorded in [49]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-swd-minutes.html#action10] [NEW] ACTION: RalphS inform group on evening event. [recorded in [50]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/09-swd-minutes.html#action02] [PENDING] ACTION: Everyone should be registered for the F2F by 10 Jan [recorded in [51]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-swd-minutes.html#action02] [PENDING] ACTION: Guus to review RDFa documents [recorded in [52]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action08] [PENDING] ACTION: Guus/TomB to put item on f2f agenda to make publication decision for RDFa documents (use cases and primer) [recorded in [53]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action09] [PENDING] ACTION: TomB and Guus to look at proposal for assigning scribe duties [recorded in [54]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action01] [DONE] ACTION: Alistair will send the outstanding issues to the list and Jon will paste into the formatted page [recorded in [55]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-swd-minutes.html#action05] [DONE] ACTION: Jon to create an issues page on the wiki [recorded in [56]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-swd-minutes.html#action07] [DONE] ACTION: Jon will choose one of the three issues pages, create a proposed format, and then post to the list for discussion [recorded in [57]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-swd-minutes.html#action11] [DONE] ACTION: Sean to submit SKOS and rules issue using agreed issue format, directly into issues wiki page (waiting for Jon) [recorded in [58]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action04] [DROPPED] ACTION: Alistair to prepare issues list for January meeting [recorded in [59]http://www.w3.org/2006/11/28-swd-minutes.html#action06] [End of minutes] _____________________________________________________ [51] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-swd-minutes.html#action02 [52] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action08 [53] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action09 [54] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action01 [55] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-swd-minutes.html#action05 [56] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/12-swd-minutes.html#action07 [57] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/19-swd-minutes.html#action11 [58] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/05-swd-minutes.html#action04 [59] http://www.w3.org/2006/11/28-swd-minutes.html#action06 Minutes formatted by David Booth's [60]scribe.perl version 1.127 ([61]CVS log) $Date: 2007/01/09 18:24:33 $ [60] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [61] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
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