- From: Ralph R. Swick <swick@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 14:13:53 -0500
- To: public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org
- Cc: public-swd-wg@w3.org
The record of today's RDF in XHTML telecon is available [1]. A full text snapshot follows below. [1] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/08-htmltf-minutes Topics 1. Action Review 2. Use Case Review 1. UC #1 2. UC #2 3. UC #4 Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Ben to update uc2, image src, uc4, no innerHTML, add link to GetN3 bookmarklet [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/08-htmltf-minutes.html#action15] [NEW] ACTION: Michael continue work on the FAQ template that Elias started [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/08-htmltf-minutes.html#action10] [NEW] ACTION: Michael transfer issue data to SWD tracker [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/08-htmltf-minutes.html#action03] [PENDING] ACTION: Ben add a forwarding pointer to http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/HTML/2005-current-issues when the new wiki issues list page is created [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action04] [PENDING] ACTION: Ben to look into Science Commons use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-htmltf-minutes.html#action04] [PENDING] ACTION: Elias to send email to list with use case from IBM [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action10] [PENDING] ACTION: Mark produce RDFa XHTML 1.1 module and spec [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action06] [PENDING] ACTION: Mark produce more examples of applicability of n-ary relations from IPTC documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action08] [PENDING] ACTION: Mark write examples/tests of striping support [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action07] [PENDING] ACTION: Steven to put together sample XHTML2 doc with all mime type, etc.. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action09] [DONE] ACTION: Ben add chem-bla-ics use case to a science use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action17] [DONE] ACTION: Michael move the issues list to the wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action03] [DROPPED] ACTION: Ben look at Semantic Media Wiki use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action15] [DROPPED] ACTION: Elias start an FAQ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action04] [DROPPED] ACTION: Michael review Mobile Device use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action16] -Ralph ---- RDF-in-XHTML TF 8 Jan 2007 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Jan/0004.html See also: [3]IRC log, previous [4]2006-12-18 [3] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/08-htmltf-irc [4] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes Attendees Present Michael Hausenblas, Ralph Swick, Ben Adida, Steven Pemberton, Mark Birbeck Regrets Elias Torres Chair Ben Scribe Ralph, Michael Contents * Topics 1. Action Review 2. Use Case Review 1. UC #1 2. UC #2 3. UC #4 3. XHTML 1.1 Module Spec 4. AOB * Summary of Action Items _____________________________________________________ next scribe (15 Jan): Steven Ralph: next Monday (15 Jan) is an MIT holiday but I'll be at work Ben: SWD WG face-to-face in 2 weeks ... we owe the WG a copy of Use Cases document tomorrow <mhausenblas> [13]http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Agenda20060122 [13] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/Agenda20060122 Ralph: We'll have teleconf facilities too in case travel cost is too great <mhausenblas> I'll join via IRC on 2007-01-23 from 9-11 (UTC?) -> [14]face-to-face registration page [14] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/MGM07req/ Ralph: the registration page shows the list of groups who are planning to meet ... it's a much smaller list than normal Tech Plenary weeks ... agenda times are Boston local times; i.e. UTC-5 Action Review ACTION: Ben add chem-bla-ics use case to a science use case [recorded in [15]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action17] [DONE] [15] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action17 Ben: see [16]Advanced Structured Blogging for Scientists [16] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/scenarios/#use-case-6 <mhausenblas> [17]http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/ [17] http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/ -> [18]tracker instance for SWD [18] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/ Ralph: I will announce the tracker instance to the WG as soon as I confirm that it works ACTION: Ben add a forwarding pointer to [19]http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/HTML/2005-current-issues when the new wiki issues list page is created [recorded in [20]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action04] [CONTINUES] [19] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/HTML/2005-current-issues [20] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action04 ACTION: Michael transfer issue data to SWD tracker [recorded in [21]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/08-htmltf-minutes.html#action03] [21] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/08-htmltf-minutes.html#action03 Michael: MMSEM XG is using a tool to transfer issues from Wiki to HTML, I hope to reuse this to transfer data to tracker ACTION: Ben look at Semantic Media Wiki use case [recorded in [22]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action15] [WITHDRAWN] [22] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action15 Ben: Michael did everything I'd planned to do and more ACTION: Mark produce RDFa XHTML 1.1 module and spec [recorded in [23]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action06] [CONTINUES] [23] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action06 Mark: expected this to be a short action but the changes to the XHTML modularization schemas in Q4 2006 were bigger than I'd expected ... need to check with Shane that he's happy with my approach ... I think the modularization document should really only focus on the schemas Ben: right, point to the syntax document for the semantics ACTION: [DONE] Michael move the issues list to the wiki [recorded in [24]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action03] [24] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action03 ACTION: Michael review Mobile Device use case [recorded in [25]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action16] [WITHDRAWN] [25] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action16 Michael: I think it's too soon to add this ... we can consider it later ACTION: Ben to look into Science Commons use case [recorded in [26]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-htmltf-minutes.html#action04] [CONTINUES] [26] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-htmltf-minutes.html#action04 Ben: this is looking a lot like the Advanced Blogging use case ... may be some more data-oriented things after I look at it more ACTION: Elias start an FAQ [recorded in [27]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action04] [CONTINUES] [27] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action04 Michael: I'm willing to start an FAQ Ben: go ahead; I think Elias made an outline, so try to find it <mhausenblas> [28]http://esw.w3.org/topic/RDFa#FAQ [28] http://esw.w3.org/topic/RDFa#FAQ Michael: transfer that to SWD Wiki? Ralph: why not keep it where it is Ben: we can cite it from SWD Wiki ... needs some introductory material ... let's withdraw Elias' action ACTION: Michael continue work on the FAQ template that Elias started [recorded in [29]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/08-htmltf-minutes.html#action10] [29] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/08-htmltf-minutes.html#action10 ACTION: Elias to send email to list with use case from IBM [recorded in [30]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action10] [CONTINUES] [30] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action10 ACTION: Mark produce more examples of applicability of n-ary relations from IPTC documents [recorded in [31]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action08] [CONTINUES] [31] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action08 Mark: keep this action, as it pertains to whether reification is or is not needed for RDFa Ben: would be nice to have a well-accepted way to say who authorized a license ACTION: Mark write examples/tests of striping support [recorded in [32]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action07] [CONTINUES] [32] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action07 ACTION: Steven to put together sample XHTML2 doc with all mime type, etc.. [recorded in [33]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action09] [CONTINUES] [33] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action09 Steven: was talking with Ivan and he thinks the Use Cases document is ready to publish Ben: I'm reluctant to solicit SWD WG reviewers tomorrow; would like to let TF members have more time to comment Mark: the editor's draft is publicly visible, right? Ralph, Ben: right Ralph: I'd like us to publish in www.w3.org/TR/ space asap Ben: can everyone here do 30 mins of review by tomorrow and send my any comments? [yes from everyone] Ralph: we don't have to resolve all comments before publishing -- we can put in editorial notes saying "this needs work" UC #1 <benadida> [34]Mark's comments [34] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Jan/0006.html Ben: we could add '#' without much comment Mark: the issue is about the subject in the triple Ben: oops ... I'll update this, inclined to use proper #-uri without giving much explanation Mark: I've written about this a lot; I think RDFa is a nice way to deal with the subject confusion ... e.g. we don't know what sort of resource the UC 1 hrefs are citing but we do know definitely that the [default] subject is an HTML document, since we've retrieved that document ... if we use #me that empasizes a nice convention UC #2 Steven: should we be referring to the URI of the image rather than an id ? Ben: I copied that from Bob Ducharme without much thought Mark: the IMG tag might say "this section of the document is embargoed" but that would make the dc:creator wrong ... IPTC would lean toward this sort of use case; add metadata to the document head as the document gets longer UC #4 Steven: section 5, the use of "inner" is too technical Ben: any opposition to changing UC 2 to refer to the image source? [no objections] Michael: it would be nice to illustrate the output of some of the RDFa extractors, e.g. Elias' work ACTION: ben to update uc2, image src, uc4, no innerHTML, add link to GetN3 bookmarklet [recorded in [35]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/08-htmltf-minutes.html#action15] [35] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/08-htmltf-minutes.html#action15 [Ralph departs for another meeting] Discussion on structured blogging Mark: The blog is the medium Ben: Stop using blog (except in UC#1) ... use publishing scientific research instead XHTML 1.1 Module Spec next week AOB none Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Ben to update uc2, image src, uc4, no innerHTML, add link to GetN3 bookmarklet [recorded in [36]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/08-htmltf-minutes.html#action15] [NEW] ACTION: Michael continue work on the FAQ template that Elias started [recorded in [37]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/08-htmltf-minutes.html#action10] [NEW] ACTION: Michael transfer issue data to SWD tracker [recorded in [38]http://www.w3.org/2007/01/08-htmltf-minutes.html#action03] [PENDING] ACTION: Ben add a forwarding pointer to [39]http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/HTML/2005-current-issues when the new wiki issues list page is created [recorded in [40]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action04] [PENDING] ACTION: Ben to look into Science Commons use case [recorded in [41]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-htmltf-minutes.html#action04] [PENDING] ACTION: Elias to send email to list with use case from IBM [recorded in [42]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action10] [PENDING] ACTION: Mark produce RDFa XHTML 1.1 module and spec [recorded in [43]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action06] [PENDING] ACTION: Mark produce more examples of applicability of n-ary relations from IPTC documents [recorded in [44]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action08] [PENDING] ACTION: Mark write examples/tests of striping support [recorded in [45]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action07] [PENDING] ACTION: Steven to put together sample XHTML2 doc with all mime type, etc.. [recorded in [46]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action09] [DONE] ACTION: Ben add chem-bla-ics use case to a science use case [recorded in [47]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action17] [DONE] ACTION: Michael move the issues list to the wiki [recorded in [48]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action03] [DROPPED] ACTION: Ben look at Semantic Media Wiki use case [recorded in [49]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action15] [DROPPED] ACTION: Elias start an FAQ [recorded in [50]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action04] [DROPPED] ACTION: Michael review Mobile Device use case [recorded in [51]http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action16] [End of minutes] _____________________________________________________ [36] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/08-htmltf-minutes.html#action15 [37] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/08-htmltf-minutes.html#action10 [38] http://www.w3.org/2007/01/08-htmltf-minutes.html#action03 [39] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/HTML/2005-current-issues [40] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action04 [41] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-htmltf-minutes.html#action04 [42] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action10 [43] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action06 [44] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action08 [45] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action07 [46] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action09 [47] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action17 [48] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action03 [49] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action15 [50] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action04 [51] http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action16 Minutes formatted by David Booth's [52]scribe.perl version 1.127 ([53]CVS log) $Date: 2007/01/08 19:11:20 $ [52] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [53] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
Received on Monday, 8 January 2007 19:14:39 UTC