- From: Phil Tetlow <philip.tetlow@uk.ibm.com>
- Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:21:14 -0500
- To: ewallace@cme.nist.gov
- Cc: SWBPD <public-swbp-wg@w3.org>, "Jeff Pan" <pan@cs.man.ac.uk>, "Guus Schreiber" <schreiber@cs.vu.nl>, "David Wood" <dwood@tucanatech.com>
Evan, I see your point…. To answer your first question directly, there is not yet any draft description outlining the focus for the proposed TF on the Semantic Web and SE. Jeff Pan and myself are currently seeking advice from Guus Schreiber on the correct procedure to follow in order to establish such a piece of work. The suggestion for the TF arose when Jeff and I started to discuss my recent paper on the use of Semantic Web technologies to help address software complexity ( http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/g/g.nsf/img/semanticsdocs/$file/soa_semanticweb.pdf , http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/autonomic/library/ac-summary/ac-semantic.html ). From this my original suggestion was to request a task force to investigate the use of Semantic Web technologies in the design of self-organising systems and consequently asked for Jeff’s thoughts on this while we were on the train together after the F2F. I believe that Jeff liked my paper and felt that it alluded to the wider application of the SW in the SE in general. So we informally agreed that a TF of ‘some kind’ would indeed be a worthwhile endeavour. I hence asked Jeff to propose a suitable name for the TF and agreed that I would willingly coordinate any resultant activity – Jeff’s suggestion was a TF with, I believe, a particularly wide, valid and exciting remit and from the responses apparent so for, it looks like quite a few others are interested in our idea as well. Currently my personal aspiration for the TF is to keep its remit deliberately wide. This is in order to highlight as many potential uses for SW material/ideas/technologies/tools etc, in the more ‘traditional’ realms of SE as possible, If for no other reason than to help raise the profile of the Semantic Web and generate visible momentum for other groups to latch onto. From a personal standpoint I am now getting substantial interest expressed in the Semantic Web from many of my colleagues and immediate professional associates. Most of these are senior practising, commercial and industry focused Software Engineers with many years experience, and the question they are all asking, in simple terms, is – ‘We can see that this is great technology, but how does it fit with my day job?!’. This is the real question I would like the TF to address and the more far reaching, wide spread and exotic the answers that come back the better. The time now appears right for old and new worlds to meet. Given that its is highly likely that RDF will soon emerge directly on the ‘clickable web’ via XHTML 2.0, I think it would be a fascinating and worthwhile exercise to see if other routes can be found, and accepted, into other ‘mainstream’ technical communities. And Software Engineering has a plethora of such communities to choose from…If significant new use cases for the SW are unearthed as a consequence, even better… Your thoughts on a remit for such a TF would be greatly valued. Kind Regards Phil Tetlow Senior Consultant IBM Business Consulting Services Mobile. (+44) 7740 923328 ewallace@cme.nist .gov Sent by: To public-swbp-wg-re public-swbp-wg@w3.org quest@w3.org cc Subject 12/11/2004 11:53 Re: Semantic Web and Software Engineering Task Force $swbp SWBPD wg: We have seen a number of recent emails on the subject of a Semantic Web and Software Engineering Task Force. However, I have yet to see any draft description defining the focus for the proposed TF. Will one be coming soon? I can imagine a scope for this ranging from "OWL/RDF driven JAVA Programing" to "IT Language and System Ontology development." The former was the focus of Holger's paper and perhaps Aditya's page, while the latter would provide knowledge to be used in application modernization or model driven software engineering approaches. Can those involved in discussion related to this at the F2F enlighten us as to the vision that emerged there? -Evan
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