- From: Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfps@research.bell-labs.com>
- Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 10:20:07 -0400 (EDT)
- To: hendler@cs.umd.edu
- Cc: public-sw-meaning@w3.org
From: Jim Hendler <hendler@cs.umd.edu> Subject: Re: An intuition pump Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 08:48:05 -0400 [...] > Anyway, my problem is that given my simple world view, I cannot find > any interesting examples where Tim's solution would make smart people > like Bijan and Peter so upset, yet it clearly does, which is why I > ask for examples that can help a simpleton like me understand what > the pragmatic effects are [...] What makes me so upset with (a strong reading of) Tim's solution is that eliminates many fruitful kinds of disagreement. To communicate, one has to use common vocabulary, but Tim's solution requires that the meanings of just about all vocabulary terms are determined, in advance, by their owners. To pick on a similar example to Jim's, consider the vocabulary term ``Peter Frederick Patel-Schneider''. (This is actually a very useful vocabulary term as it is almost certainly the case that there is only one person in the world with that name. Further, I had to go through an unusual, and probably precedent-setting, process to assert my right to have that name. There is thus a good case to consider this and related vocabulary terms as being owned by me.) Under (this strong reading of) Tim's solution, the mere mention of ``Peter Frederick Patel-Schneider'', or any of its variants, commits an agent to my view of the term. (See my home page for some of the consequences. You will probably have to view the source of the document as a browser is otherwise unlikely to give you the full impact.) Under (this strong reading of) Tim's solution there is no possibility of divergence of opinion concerning anything about a vocabulary term. Any agent who dares to disagree will just be inconsitent. I am not against the deliberate self-imposition of a fixed common meaning for vocabulary terms. Even though this is not common in human discourse, there are many cases where a fixed common meaning is useful, in particular when systems with very limited reasoning power are employed. However, I am against the simple use of a vocabulary term committing one to a fixed common meaning, and much in favour of an explicit mechanism (e.g., imports) for this commitment. Peter F. Patel-Schneider http://www-db.research.bell-labs.com/user/pfps
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