- From: Williams, Stuart <skw@hp.com>
- Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 12:08:32 +0100
- To: "'public-sw-meaning@w3.org'" <public-sw-meaning@w3.org>
I am a elected member of the W3C TAG and act as its co-chair (at the request of the group). I'm employee by Hewlett-Packard and work as as part of the Semantic Web team at HP Labs in Bristol. I am currently focussed (if that can ever be said to be the case) on the application of the Semantic Web to the rich description of Web Service interfaces. This work is partially funded by the EU Semantic Web enabled Web Services (http://swws.semanticweb.org) project. I spend some time as a member of the XML Protocol Working group (until July 2002) and before that I spent a chunk of my life working on infrared wireless communication protocols (http://www.irda.org) and still derive perverse pleasure from its continued existence on mobile phones, PDAs, printers and portable PCs. As a TAG member I hear conflicting opinions from people I respect about the existence of an architectural issue at the heart of the social meaning problem. Folks have suggested that this is a wider issue than just an issue for RDF - folks are exchanging business documents in XML and the like - if those things represent purchase order and invoices and the like, they too have some intended real world meaning - likewise my hypertext driven interactions with an online store. I think that there are a bunch of issues potentially tangled in with the social-meaning question... in particular questions about the denotation of URI (and maybe more specifically HTTP URI), which have 'exploded' over both uri@w3.org and www-tag@w3.org and are related to the TAG issue httpRange-14 (http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/ilist#httpRange-14). My understanding of the formal underpinnings of RDF and OWL is currently limited, but as I understand it, at least for RDF, the semantics of RDF are independent of particular interpretation (ie. mapping from URI to the things the are being used to denote). I'm wondering whether the notion of a 'social interpretation' whether that mapping is at least partially established through the social process of URI assignment rooted in and delegated from the URI specification might be a helpful concept. Acknowledging the existence of multiple interpretations in general and even multiple 'social interpretations' arising from a somewhat incomplete mapping. I also mused about the what the first human astronauts to land on Mars (or some more distant planet) might make of the string "http://www.w3.org/" scratched, in an apparently roman script, in the dust close to their landing site. As to process: I'd like the group to initially work toward a concensus expression of the problem it aims to address and an expression of what it hopes to accomplish. If you like, to write its own terms of reference or charter. Beyond that, to accept various proposals on how to address the substantive problem... and beyond that some analysis and concensus building around what, if anything, need be said and where (in what publication) it need be said. I guess that feels a little generic and straightforward... I'm sure it won't prove that easy :-) I think that an initial telecon would be useful to understand where various folks are coming from one the technical issue. I think the group also needs to address a few house-keeping issues: like how it's going to meet (regularly (frequency), irregularly, by phone, F2F...); what record (beyond a mailing list archive) of its meetings will be kept (I have a preference that we do produce a publically accesible record of our meetings); how will the group manage its process, monitor action items, generate meeting agenda, make decisions... It would be good to get the house-keeping sorted early so that discussion can be focussed on substantive matters. A good strawman and some email discussion might serve better than telcon time. Telcon constraints: Mon, Wed, Thur, Fri anytime 09:30-17:30 UK (04:30-12:30 Boston) Wed and Fri 20:00-22:00 UK (15:00-17:00 Boston) I'd do late Friday for a one-off, but not as a regular commitment. Travelling (restricted availability): 22-25 September 6-8 October (TAG F2F in Bristol) 17-25 October (ISWC Florida) ISWC may provide a useful opportunity for some to meet F2F. Regards Stuart Williams Tel: +44 117 3128285
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