- From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 23:07:39 -0400
- To: Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>, public-svg-a11y@w3.org
- Cc: cooper@w3.org, frederickesch@gmail.com
https://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html
SVG Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
01 Nov 2016
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-irc
Attendees
Present
Regrets
Chair
Rich
Scribe
Rich
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]co-chairs
2. [5]Vacation Schedule
3. [6]SVG2 Status
4. [7]Status of our Documents
5. [8]Testing ToDs
* [9]Summary of Action Items
* [10]Summary of Resolutions
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I am on webex
but apparently, the last meeting used Doug’s webex
[11]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-a11y/2016No
v/att-0001/00-part
[11]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-a11y/2016Nov/att-0001/00-part
<shepazu> Rich, ok, I'll join the other one
<AmeliaBR>
[12]https://mit.webex.com/mit/e.php?MTID=mfbccb8d6db27f5aa089c1
2da792afa6d
[12]
https://mit.webex.com/mit/e.php?MTID=mfbccb8d6db27f5aa089c12da792afa6d
[13]https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1008738814311&set=a
.1008738534304.2002162.1100161646&type=3&theater
[13]
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1008738814311&set=a.1008738534304.2002162.1100161646&type=3&theater
[14]http://www.wesharebonaire.com/2015/02/14/i-shall-return/
[14] http://www.wesharebonaire.com/2015/02/14/i-shall-return/
<scribe> meeting: SVG A11y Task Force
co-chairs
Rich: looking for a co-chair for the task force due to move to
retirement
Doug: If my situation changes I would be willing to co-chair
Amelia: I have a similar situation. At this time I will
continue to participate
Vacation Schedule
Rich: On vacation November 5-20. Also, the last 2 weeks of the
year I will be out like most
... Fred will try to chair next week. If not, Doug will chair
Doug: Limit discussions to testing while Rich is on vacation
November 5-20
RESOLUTION: Last meeting this year is December 13, Resuming
January 3, 2017\
SVG2 Status
Rich: Last I heard the SVG working group was going to take some
features out of SVG2
Amelia: we met about a month ago with most implementers. Many
of the implementers were not interested in doing the advanced
graphical features at this time. To move ahead with a spec.
some of those features would be moved to separate modules.
... We asked people to get back to us with features they felt
were priorities and not priorities. No feedback has been feed
at this time
... At the meeting it was agreed that A11y was a priority
... we have agreed but we need to say that some things like Z
index was important for a11y. Also, the multi-lingual title is
important as an a11y enhancement
Doug: One slight update: I sent an email to the implementers to
provide an easier way for them to provide feedback in hopes of
greater responsiveness.
<AmeliaBR> Feedback & implementation status summary document:
[15]https://nikosandronikos.github.io/svg2-info/svg2-feature-su
pport/
[15] https://nikosandronikos.github.io/svg2-info/svg2-feature-support/
Doug: It is pretty clear what features they will support - the
enhancements but not completely new features
... We have a working extension for the working group that will
last until the end of January and they will push forward on the
rechartering.
... It really depends on our getting people to help with
testing resources.
... Adobe, who has not been engaged with SVG did show up at the
meeting and they stated that Adobe was was interested in a11y
Rich: they were also interested in the advanced features
Doug: If we can get 2 authoring tools that should suffice.
Amelia: to get interoperable mesh gradients across graphics
editing tools
Doug: There has been a lot of litigation lately and increased
focus on accessibility
... The companies that make ZoomText and Window-Eyes have
merged with the company that makes JAWS. VFO.
... these are now all under one roof.
Status of our Documents
Amelia: The SVG accessibility mappings updates were not
integrated yet.
... update the working draft to match the editors draft
<scribe> ACTION: Doug Update the draft. [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action01
]
[16] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2031 - Update the draft. [on Doug
Schepers - due 2016-11-08].
Amelia: More broadly we have a number of issues in that
document. As we build a test suite and get more implementers we
will be able to narrow down the issues. …. View elements and
couple of the other areas where SVG is unique
... I have sort of suggested a way of handling things.
... hopefully the test suite will be a way to get greater
implementer involvement
Testing ToDs
[17]https://www.w3.org/wiki/SVG_Accessibility/Testing/Test_Asse
rtions_with_Tables_for_ATTA
[17]
https://www.w3.org/wiki/SVG_Accessibility/Testing/Test_Assertions_with_Tables_for_ATTA
Rich: Why can’t we just point canvas and iframe to HTML
Amelia: Copy the HTML a11y tests for these
<scribe> ACTION: Doug: Reach out to Steve Faulkner to get test
cases copied over to the SVG a11y test harness [recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action02
]
[18] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2032 - Reach out to steve faulkner to
get test cases copied over to the svg a11y test harness [on
Doug Schepers - due 2016-11-08].
Rich: Thes aare for canvas and iframe
Amelia: The view element is new in that the view is activated
by a target fragment. Where the target fragment is the id of
the view element.
... We need a test harness that that will accommodate this
... Contact Shane McCharron (ARIA a11y test harness)
shane@spec-ops.io and Mike Smith (smith@w3.org)
Rich: track, audio, video come from HTML tests as well
Filter Parts: We need to make sure they are not exposed in the
a11y
<scribe> ACTION: Fred Write test harness mappings to make sure
the fe* are not mapped in a11y api [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action03
]
[19] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Error finding 'Fred'. You can review and register
nicknames at
<[20]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/svg-a11y-tf/track/users>.
[20] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/svg-a11y-tf/track/users
<scribe> ACTION: fesch Write test harness mappings to make sure
the fe* are not mapped in a11y api [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action04
]
[21] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Error finding 'fesch'. You can review and register
nicknames at
<[22]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/svg-a11y-tf/track/users>.
[22] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/svg-a11y-tf/track/users
Amelia: set should not be exposed. We need to check that it did
not hide other elements. … these are part of the svg aam
trackbot, make minutes
<trackbot> Sorry, Rich, I don't understand 'trackbot, make
minutes'. Please refer to
<[23]http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.
[23] http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Doug Update the draft. [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action01
]
[NEW] ACTION: Doug: Reach out to Steve Faulkner to get test
cases copied over to the SVG a11y test harness [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action02
]
[NEW] ACTION: fesch Write test harness mappings to make sure
the fe* are not mapped in a11y api [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action04
]
[NEW] ACTION: Fred Write test harness mappings to make sure the
fe* are not mapped in a11y api [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action03
]
[24] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action01
[25] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action02
[26] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action04
[27] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action03
Summary of Resolutions
1. [28]Last meeting this year is December 13, Resuming January
3, 2017\
[End of minutes]
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