Minutes: November 1, 2016 SVG Accessibility Task Force Meeting

https://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html

               SVG Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
                               01 Nov 2016

    See also: [2]IRC log

       [2] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-irc

Attendees

    Present
    Regrets
    Chair
           Rich

    Scribe
           Rich

Contents

      * [3]Topics
          1. [4]co-chairs
          2. [5]Vacation Schedule
          3. [6]SVG2 Status
          4. [7]Status of our Documents
          5. [8]Testing ToDs
      * [9]Summary of Action Items
      * [10]Summary of Resolutions
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    I am on webex

    but apparently, the last meeting used Doug’s webex

    [11]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-a11y/2016No
    v/att-0001/00-part

      [11] 
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-a11y/2016Nov/att-0001/00-part

    <shepazu> Rich, ok, I'll join the other one

    <AmeliaBR>
    [12]https://mit.webex.com/mit/e.php?MTID=mfbccb8d6db27f5aa089c1
    2da792afa6d

      [12] 
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    [13]https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1008738814311&set=a
    .1008738534304.2002162.1100161646&type=3&theater

      [13] 
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    [14]http://www.wesharebonaire.com/2015/02/14/i-shall-return/

      [14] http://www.wesharebonaire.com/2015/02/14/i-shall-return/

    <scribe> meeting: SVG A11y Task Force

co-chairs

    Rich: looking for a co-chair for the task force due to move to
    retirement

    Doug: If my situation changes I would be willing to co-chair

    Amelia: I have a similar situation. At this time I will
    continue to participate

Vacation Schedule

    Rich: On vacation November 5-20. Also, the last 2 weeks of the
    year I will be out like most
    ... Fred will try to chair next week. If not, Doug will chair

    Doug: Limit discussions to testing while Rich is on vacation
    November 5-20

    RESOLUTION: Last meeting this year is December 13, Resuming
    January 3, 2017\

SVG2 Status

    Rich: Last I heard the SVG working group was going to take some
    features out of SVG2

    Amelia: we met about a month ago with most implementers. Many
    of the implementers were not interested in doing the advanced
    graphical features at this time. To move ahead with a spec.
    some of those features would be moved to separate modules.
    ... We asked people to get back to us with features they felt
    were priorities and not priorities. No feedback has been feed
    at this time
    ... At the meeting it was agreed that A11y was a priority
    ... we have agreed but we need to say that some things like Z
    index was important for a11y. Also, the multi-lingual title is
    important as an a11y enhancement

    Doug: One slight update: I sent an email to the implementers to
    provide an easier way for them to provide feedback in hopes of
    greater responsiveness.

    <AmeliaBR> Feedback & implementation status summary document:
    [15]https://nikosandronikos.github.io/svg2-info/svg2-feature-su
    pport/

      [15] https://nikosandronikos.github.io/svg2-info/svg2-feature-support/

    Doug: It is pretty clear what features they will support - the
    enhancements but not completely new features
    ... We have a working extension for the working group that will
    last until the end of January and they will push forward on the
    rechartering.
    ... It really depends on our getting people to help with
    testing resources.
    ... Adobe, who has not been engaged with SVG did show up at the
    meeting and they stated that Adobe was was interested in a11y

    Rich: they were also interested in the advanced features

    Doug: If we can get 2 authoring tools that should suffice.

    Amelia: to get interoperable mesh gradients across graphics
    editing tools

    Doug: There has been a lot of litigation lately and increased
    focus on accessibility
    ... The companies that make ZoomText and Window-Eyes have
    merged with the company that makes JAWS. VFO.
    ... these are now all under one roof.

Status of our Documents

    Amelia: The SVG accessibility mappings updates were not
    integrated yet.
    ... update the working draft to match the editors draft

    <scribe> ACTION: Doug Update the draft. [recorded in
    [16]http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action01
    ]

      [16] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action01]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-2031 - Update the draft. [on Doug
    Schepers - due 2016-11-08].

    Amelia: More broadly we have a number of issues in that
    document. As we build a test suite and get more implementers we
    will be able to narrow down the issues. …. View elements and
    couple of the other areas where SVG is unique
    ... I have sort of suggested a way of handling things.
    ... hopefully the test suite will be a way to get greater
    implementer involvement

Testing ToDs

    [17]https://www.w3.org/wiki/SVG_Accessibility/Testing/Test_Asse
    rtions_with_Tables_for_ATTA

      [17] 
https://www.w3.org/wiki/SVG_Accessibility/Testing/Test_Assertions_with_Tables_for_ATTA

    Rich: Why can’t we just point canvas and iframe to HTML

    Amelia: Copy the HTML a11y tests for these

    <scribe> ACTION: Doug: Reach out to Steve Faulkner to get test
    cases copied over to the SVG a11y test harness [recorded in
    [18]http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action02
    ]

      [18] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action02]

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-2032 - Reach out to steve faulkner to
    get test cases copied over to the svg a11y test harness [on
    Doug Schepers - due 2016-11-08].

    Rich: Thes aare for canvas and iframe

    Amelia: The view element is new in that the view is activated
    by a target fragment. Where the target fragment is the id of
    the view element.
    ... We need a test harness that that will accommodate this
    ... Contact Shane McCharron (ARIA a11y test harness)
    shane@spec-ops.io and Mike Smith (smith@w3.org)

    Rich: track, audio, video come from HTML tests as well

    Filter Parts: We need to make sure they are not exposed in the
    a11y

    <scribe> ACTION: Fred Write test harness mappings to make sure
    the fe* are not mapped in a11y api [recorded in
    [19]http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action03
    ]

      [19] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action03]

    <trackbot> Error finding 'Fred'. You can review and register
    nicknames at
    <[20]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/svg-a11y-tf/track/users>.

      [20] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/svg-a11y-tf/track/users

    <scribe> ACTION: fesch Write test harness mappings to make sure
    the fe* are not mapped in a11y api [recorded in
    [21]http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action04
    ]

      [21] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action04]

    <trackbot> Error finding 'fesch'. You can review and register
    nicknames at
    <[22]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/svg-a11y-tf/track/users>.

      [22] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/svg-a11y-tf/track/users

    Amelia: set should not be exposed. We need to check that it did
    not hide other elements. … these are part of the svg aam

    trackbot, make minutes

    <trackbot> Sorry, Rich, I don't understand 'trackbot, make
    minutes'. Please refer to
    <[23]http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.

      [23] http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc

Summary of Action Items

    [NEW] ACTION: Doug Update the draft. [recorded in
    [24]http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action01
    ]
    [NEW] ACTION: Doug: Reach out to Steve Faulkner to get test
    cases copied over to the SVG a11y test harness [recorded in
    [25]http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action02
    ]
    [NEW] ACTION: fesch Write test harness mappings to make sure
    the fe* are not mapped in a11y api [recorded in
    [26]http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action04
    ]
    [NEW] ACTION: Fred Write test harness mappings to make sure the
    fe* are not mapped in a11y api [recorded in
    [27]http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action03
    ]

      [24] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action01
      [25] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action02
      [26] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action04
      [27] http://www.w3.org/2016/11/01-svg-a11y-minutes.html#action03

Summary of Resolutions

     1. [28]Last meeting this year is December 13, Resuming January
        3, 2017\

    [End of minutes]

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