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Re: DPUB and SVG Graphics mappings for Webkit

From: James Craig <jcraig@apple.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 00:16:41 -0800
Cc: Chris Fleizach <cfleizach@apple.com>, ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org>, public-svg-a11y@w3.org, W3C PF - DPUB Joint Task Force <public-dpub-aria@w3.org>
Message-Id: <7D8CFACF-6046-458D-AFDD-41EC2D3AFCD4@apple.com>
To: Richard Schwerdtfeger <richschwer@gmail.com>
Clarifying: I used the term "subroles" below to mean ARIA's definition of a "Subclass Role," not the AX API definition of an AXSubrole.

> On Feb 24, 2016, at 12:10 AM, James Craig <jcraig@apple.com> wrote:
> 
> Questions about aria-linktype:
> 
> 1. What is the value to the user or AT for having these different linktypes enumerated versus using a freeform aria-roledescription?
> 
> 2. These values seem very specific to DPUB. Couldn't these be DPUB subroles of link in the DPUB spec? doc-commentlink, doc-footnotelink, etc? I think it'd be more clear there, and decrease the implementation complexity.
> 
> 3. Using an enumerated taxonomy doesn't seem to provide any benefit over subroles. Is there any?
> 
> 4. What is the end-user expectation? Presumably you expect a role description change, like "footnote link"? Anything else?
> 
> Thanks,
> James
> 
> 
>> On Feb 23, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Richard Schwerdtfeger <richschwer@gmail.com <mailto:richschwer@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes. that is the dpub module. 
>> 
>> Note: Many places where we have references (which are link types) we are introducing an aria-linktype versus having additional roles for links. Here is the branch proposal for that:
>> 
>> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/action-2006/aria/aria.html#aria-linktype <https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/action-2006/aria/aria.html#aria-linktype>
>> 
>> Rich
>> 
>>> On Feb 22, 2016, at 8:11 PM, James Craig <jcraig@apple.com <mailto:jcraig@apple.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What's the current URL for the ARIA graphics module? Not the AAM doc, just the spec.
>>> 
>>> I see graphics.html and graphics2.html in source control.
>>> 
>>> Presumably this is the current spec draft for DPUB?
>>> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/dpub.html <https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/dpub.html>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 19, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger <richschwer@gmail.com <mailto:richschwer@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> James, Chris, 
>>>> 
>>>> I want to make sure we have adequate mappings for the DPUB ARIA roles and the SVG Graphics roles in Webkit for Mac Platforms
>>>> 
>>>> http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/dpub-aam/dpub-aam.html#mapping_role_table <http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/dpub-aam/dpub-aam.html#mapping_role_table>
>>>> 
>>>> http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/graphics-aam/graphics-aam.html <http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/graphics-aam/graphics-aam.html>
>>>> 
>>>> Don’t pay attention to the current mappings. Please just tell us what you want. These are place holders. I don’t know if you have been following the aria discussion but we are looking at introducing an aria-linktype for the different types of links that are in EPUB so that we can still use things like AXLink and not proliferate link roles. 
>>>> 
>>>> Would you please help us define these mappings?
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> 
>>>> Rich
>>>> 
>>>> Rich Schwerdtfeger
>>> 
>> 
> 


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