- From: Fred Esch <fesch@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 16:31:38 -0500
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All, Media Queries Level 4 has 4 SVG diagrams. I would like us to provide recommendations to the CSS WG on how the SVG files should be handled and provide text descriptions for them if appropriate. Here are some questions. Is some form of accessibility or label needed or is the surrounding text enough? How should the SVG diagrams be made accessible? Do you think these diagrams should be referred to as 'railroad diagrams' or 'syntax diagrams'? Given the state of SVG accessibility I think they should wrap the SVG in a HTML figure element and provide a HTML figcaption element for each. What are your opinions on how to provide accessibility to the diagrams? I have two proposals for captions for each diagram, provided below. What do you all think would be appropriate (assuming you agree that a caption is the way to go). Also note, in the suggested captions I use the term syntax diagram - since they are talking about the syntax of CSS media queries, whereas they use the term 'railroad diagram' in section 3. Sec 2. svg railroad diagram A. syntax diagram of media query described in this section. B. syntax diagram main route goes through a <em>media condition</em> alternate route may have either an <em>only</em>, <em>not</em> or no modifier and then goes through a <em>media type</em> then route either goes through an empty branch or a branch with <em>and</em> and an <em>media condition</em> Sec 2.1 svg railroad diagram A. syntax diagram of comma separated media query list. B. syntax diagram: main route goes through a <em>media query</em>, alternate empty branch, alternate main route with a <em>comma</em> in a loop Sec 2.4 svg railroad diagram A. syntax diagram showing three forms of media feature: a feature name with a value, only a feature name or a range form. B. syntax diagram: three routes available, route 1 has a <em>feature name</em> <em>:</em> <em>feature value</em>, route 2 has (only) a <em>feature name</em>, route 3 has a <em>range form</em> Sec 2.4.3 svg railroad diagram A. syntax diagram showing range forms. there are two range forms one has a pair of feature name/values separated by one of the following operators (= < <= > >=). The second form has a value operator feature name operator value. There are two flavors of the second form one flavor uses either < or <= operators and the other flavor use either > or >= operators. B. syntax diagram: three main routes, the first route goes through a <em>feature name/value</em> then it has a branch for each of the operators <em>=</em> <em><</em> <em><=</em> <em>></em> <em>>=</em> that rejoin then goes through a second <em>feature name/value</em>. The second route goes through a <em>value</em> and branches for each operator <em><</em> and <em><=</em> rejoining then <em>feature name</em> and branches for each operator <em><</em> and <em><=</em> and rejoining for the second <em>value</em>. The third route goes through a <em>value</em> and branches for each operator <em>></em> and <em>>=</em> rejoining then <em>feature name</em> and branches for each operator <em>></em> and <em>>=</em> and rejoining for the second <em>value</em>. Regards, Fred Esch Watson, IBM, W3C Accessibility IBM Watson Watson Release Management and Quality --1__ BBF5DDDFE7068C8f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBF5DDDFE7068C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline <html><body><p>All,<br><br><br>Media Queries Level 4 has 4 SVG diagrams. I would like us to provide recommendations to the CSS WG on how the SVG files should be handled and provide text descriptions for them if appropriate. Here are some questions. Is some form of accessibility or label needed or is the surrounding text enough? How should the SVG diagrams be made accessible? Do you think these diagrams should be referred to as 'railroad diagrams' or 'syntax diagrams'? <br><br>Given the state of SVG accessibility I think they should wrap the SVG in a HTML figure element and provide a HTML figcaption element for each. What are your opinions on how to provide accessibility to the diagrams? <br><br>I have two proposals for captions for each diagram, provided below. What do you all think would be appropriate (assuming you agree that a caption is the way to go). Also note, in the suggested captions I use the term syntax diagram - since they are talking about the syntax of CSS media queries, whereas they use the term 'railroad diagram' in section 3.<br><br>Sec 2. svg railroad diagram<br>A. syntax diagram of media query described in this section.<br>B. syntax diagram main route goes through a <em>media condition</em> alternate route may have either an <em>only</em>, <em>not</em> or no modifier and then goes through a <em>media type</em> then route either goes through an empty branch or a branch with <em>and</em> and an <em>media condition</em><br><br>Sec 2.1 svg railroad diagram<br>A. syntax diagram of comma separated media query list.<br>B. syntax diagram: main route goes through a <em>media query</em>, alternate empty branch, alternate main route with a <em>comma</em> in a loop<br><br>Sec 2.4 svg railroad diagram<br>A. syntax diagram showing three forms of media feature: a feature name with a value, only a feature name or a range form. <br>B. syntax diagram: three routes available, route 1 has a <em>feature name</em> <em>:</em> <em>feature value</em>, route 2 has (only) a <em>feature name</em>, route 3 has a <em>range form</em><br><br>Sec 2.4.3 svg railroad diagram <br>A. syntax diagram showing range forms. there are two range forms one has a pair of feature name/values separated by one of the following operators (= < <= > >=). The second form has a value operator feature name operator value. There are two flavors of the second form one flavor uses either < or <= operators and the other flavor use either > or >= operators.<br>B. syntax diagram: three main routes, the first route goes through a <em>feature name/value</em> then it has a branch for each of the operators <em>=</em> <em><</em> <em><=</em> <em>></em> <em>>=</em> that rejoin then goes through a second <em>feature name/value</em>. The second route goes through a <em>value</em> and branches for each operator <em><</em> and <em><=</em> rejoining then <em>feature name</em> and branches for each operator <em><</em> and <em><=</em> and rejoining for the second <em>value</em>. 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