- From: Manfred Hauswirth <manfred.hauswirth@deri.org>
- Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 10:44:11 +0100
- To: Kerry.Taylor@csiro.au
- CC: Michael.Compton@csiro.au, public-ssn-cg@w3.org
... and I should mention that we use RDF, SSN + REST down to the physical sensor hardware level, i.e., on low-capability sensors. I think, if we can demonstrate that the concepts we work on in SSN not "only" work on a modeling level but can then be used directly down to the physical sensor, we have a winning case. My 2 cents, Manfred Manfred Hauswirth wrote: > Dear all, > > Kerry.Taylor@csiro.au wrote: >> Michael and all, >> I strongly support this redesign, at least in principle (as Michael >> knows!). I haven't had a chance to look at the detail, yet, I am afraid. > > +1 > >> A point of minor disagreement, though. I think your message implies >> that (roughly) the SSN is "complete" and >> everything else is covered by "stubs" and "examples". I think there is >> real extension work to be done (appropriately modularised), perhaps >> around "activation", >> "humans as sensors" and possibly systems, platforms and deployment too. > > +1 > > Plus we need extension for energy and network structure. This is > something you come across when working on practical cases immediately > and it is fairly straight-forward but necessary. We extended SSN in > SPITFIRE (www.spitfire-project.eu) in these respects and can provide > this as a starting point for discussions. > > SPITFIRE in my opinion is particularly interesting (shameless > self-promotion) for providing input to SSN as we combine RDF, ontologies > and REST (6LowPAN and CoAP - currently being standardized by IETF) in > this project to make sensor networks look like normal Web resources, > i.e., development should boil down to the same abstractions like normal > Web development - but there is a lot of work you need to do under the > hood to support this in a nice way. > > CoAP will be the standard. The IoT people are going for REST. Ontologies > in IoT are all over the place. We need to support this from SSN's side > and get the necessary uptake outside the core Web community. > > Best, > > Manfred > >> >> Kerry >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Michael Compton [mailto:Michael.Compton@csiro.au] >>> Sent: Friday, 8 June 2012 5:07 PM >>> To: public-ssn-cg@w3.org >>> Subject: [ExternalEmail] Proposal for a new organisation of the SSN >>> Ontology >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> It's pretty quiet on this list so far, so here is a try at generating >>> some discussion. >>> >>> I've been thinking about the SSN Ontology and wondering if it wouldn't >>> be better organised into a set of ontologies, rather than just one. A >>> couple of reasons: >>> >>> - the SSO (stimulus sensor observation) pattern isn't usable on its own >>> >>> - the SSN ontology introduces things like deployments, which aren't >>> sensor only, and >>> >>> - I keep getting asked about the dolce alignment and how it's all very >>> nice and all, but it seems like lots of users would rather maybe know >>> it's there, but not have to use it >>> >>> >>> So attached I have a first cut at doing this. >>> >>> - It starts with the SSO as an independent ontology. >>> >>> - Then importing this is the SSNO, which should amount to all the >>> 'sensor only' concepts. >>> >>> - From there is SSNO plus the alignment as a separate branch and >>> another branch which adds Systems and Devices and then Platforms and >>> Deployments. >>> >>> - Finally, is the whole thing aligned to DUL. This should be pretty >>> much equivalent to the original ontology. >>> >>> >>> I hope that's able to be navigated with the attached files. My >>> expectation is that the sensor ontology could be just the first two >>> (SSO & SSNO) and then from there as a community we could define a >>> number of useful stubs and examples - so take the systems and >>> deployments branch as a stub of how to incorporate systems, devices >>> and deployments. For example, units, time, location, etc might also >>> be useful stubs. These together with a set of examples and libraries >>> (say of definitions of real devices and domains) could really help to >>> get people started with the ontology and help us share common fragments. >>> >>> All this should give us a somewhat more minimal ontology and a better >>> organisation of extensions etc. >>> >>> Thoughts, ideas, comments, disagreements, etc..? >>> >>> Michael >>> >> >> > -- Prof. Manfred Hauswirth Digital Enterprise Research Institute (DERI) National University of Ireland, Galway (NUIG) http://www.manfredhauswirth.org/
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