Re: Proposal – extension for Athletics

I like the attention to also "planning athletics event". And look forward
to learning more about the use cases and needs for Event Planners in
general and what schema gaps we might have.  For instance, Are there
missing properties for Event Planners and Organizers under our
http://webschemas.org/Event ?

@Aaron,
In your work with EA and eSports arenas, bookings, and planning... do ya'll
have any special Types yet that would fall in the "planning" category that
Martin mentions ?  Could you ask some of those eSports event planners and
organizers if there are missing properties for our Event Type or towards
publishing in general ?

You can capture all of these gaps under this extension and as time moves
forward, those Types and Properties that are useful for all Domains can be
pulled out and put into our Core for wider cross Domain usage.

Another tip from me:
Also, anything special about the publishing of results themselves ?  I
think most of that we have addressed already, but perhaps there are Machine
oriented properties or attributes of "ways to publish" or interprocess
properties that are missing that help with language translation of results
or specific publishing platform properties that we are missing...so also
think about those as well.  Don't just think about it in terms of  "its a
big Excel / CSV table of results".

Think like a machine first....then apply your human brain. :)
-Thad
+ThadGuidry <https://www.google.com/+ThadGuidry>


On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 11:50 AM Paul Kelly <paul@polvo.ca> wrote:

> The BBC uses both SportsML and the ontology. SportsML to hold detailed
> data — for example, player stats and action descriptions. The ontology to
> manage basic metadata and to define relationships between concepts.
>
> I’ve also mentioned the sports vocabularies IPTC released last Fall (and
> it would be great to add one for athletics):
>
> https://github.com/iptc/sports-newscodes
>
> Martin, it appears you are already some ways towards defining a data model:
>
> http://opentrack.run/athlib/build/html/index.html
>
> Are you looking toward something that is universally applicable to all
> sports or to just athletics?
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
> > On May 9, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Martin Alvarez-Espinar <
> martin.alvarez@fundacionctic.org> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the info, Brendan.
> >
> > Apart from this SportsML, which definitely would be helpful to report
> sports news, I found the Sports Ontology that BBC created [1] to represent
> events and results. Both should be taken into account.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > [1] http://www.bbc.co.uk/ontologies/sport
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 5:19 PM Brendan Quinn <brendan@cluefulmedia.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi Martin,
> >
> > Have you seen SportsML? They cover athletics among many other things as
> part of the NewsML family of standards from IPTC.
> >
> > I haven't used it recently, but the 2016 Olympics were covered using
> SportsML so I assume it can handle athletics:
> > https://iptc.org/news/olympic-games-sportsml-3-0/
> >
> > Hopefully you could base a lot of your work on their structures, or even
> just create a mapping from NewsML/SportsML to schema.org which would help
> many other people as well.
> >
> > The NewsML folks have an open community, development wiki and mailing
> list which I'm sure you would be welcome to join.
> >
> > Hope that helps, and best of luck with the project!
> >
> > Brendan
> > (Freelance consultant, Clueful Consulting Ltd in the UK)
> >
> > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 3:40 PM Martin Alvarez-Espinar <
> martin.alvarez@fundacionctic.org> wrote:
> > Hi Dan, all,
> >
> > I'm sorry, I didn't introduce myself before. I'm Martin, working for
> CTIC —a Spanish technology center—, also Head of the W3C Spanish Office.
> >
> > We recently launched a Community Group called OpenTrack [1]. Our idea is
> developing a conceptual model for Athletics (management of competitions,
> competitors, results, etc.), and a subsequent vocabulary or schema about it.
> >
> > This schema would be useful either for professional (i.e., official
> track and field events) and amateur Athletics (i.e., charity running). This
> would be really interesting for planning athletics events, publishing
> results in a common way, having directories of athletes, teams, etc.
> European Athletics is supporting the idea, as well as other Open Data
> players (timekeeping, and reporting companies), so we will expect wide
> outreach.
> >
> > At first sight, our idea was having a complete ontology, but I think
> this vocabulary should be really flexible and easy to adopt. Thus, my
> proposal is creating a schema.org extension for this domain. There are
> dozens of core concepts that will be reused and others that can be enriched.
> >
> > Currently, we are already drafting the abstract model [2] to cover all
> the use cases and requirements. I did the exercise to check the potential
> alignment with schema.org and it seems feasible. We will continue with
> the work (everyone is welcome to join us). Unless you see any problem with
> it, we will start also with this potential extension. Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > [1] https://www.w3.org/community/opentrack/
> > [2] https://w3c.github.io/opentrack-cg/spec/model/overview
> >
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