Re: Moving Forward with Agentic Linked Data

čt 23. 1. 2025 v 19:29 odesílatel Joshua Cornejo <josh@marketdata.md>
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> I am in the middle because not everything needs fixing, and maybe not all
> use cases will be ‘fixable’. I already put a comment on the page Melvin
> distributed:
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> “it would be useful to start by drawing a high-level architecture, so
> everyone has the same alignment. (for example "deploying agents" gives a
> different flavour than "accessing solid pods").”
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> The easiest approach (IMHO) is always to build the use cases and a level-0
> architecture.
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Hi Joshua

I think high-level architecture is a great idea, and something we can work
on.  Perhaps you might want to give it a go?

Aside from that a protocol for agent commis is emerging, namely, Model
Context Protocol (MCP)

This might also be something worth looking at:

https://modelcontextprotocol.io/introduction

Best
Melvin


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> From parallel conversations and research, there are elements of
> authentication/authorisation that don’t exist today for some use cases (for
> example, “delegating access” has always been exceptional and involves
> aspects from both).
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> Regards,
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> ___________________________________
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> *Joshua Cornejo*
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> *marketdata <https://www.marketdata.md/>*
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> smart authorisation management for the AI-era
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> *From: *"Jeff Zucker (he/him)" <dubzed@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Thursday 23 January 2025 at 17:37
> *To: *Sindhu Raju <sindhu2@mac.com>
> *Cc: *Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>, public-solid <
> public-solid@w3.org>, Antoine Zimmermann <antoine.zimmermann@emse.fr>,
> Andrei Ciortea <andrei.ciortea@inria.fr>
> *Subject: *Re: Moving Forward with Agentic Linked Data
> *Resent-From: *<public-solid@w3.org>
> *Resent-Date: *Thu, 23 Jan 2025 17:37:07 +0000
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> Sindhu Raju wrote "My understanding of SOLID. it meant for individual
> data"
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> I strongly disagree with this statement.  There are numerous use cases and
> actual applications aimed at organizations and enterprises. Who do you
> think are Inrupt's customers?  The construction industry clients on Trinpod
> are not individuals.  I can name a dozen different Solid apps aimed at
> homeless service case workers, community health clinics, tracking
> sustainability information and other types of data that goes far beyond the
> individual.  INRIA has a major project aimed at small farm inventory.
>  SOLID is for both individuals and organizations,
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> On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 8:51 AM Sindhu Raju <sindhu2@mac.com> wrote:
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> Hi Melvin,
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> I think we should have discussion on types of of agents and use cases. My
> understanding of SOLID. it meant for individual data and I think we should
> limit the scope to individuals and their use cases. I think discussing
> agents at large is not appropriate and not a good use of our time. In fact
> we should only be discussing Agents in a manner that the general public can
> understand.
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> Thanks,
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> Sindhu
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> On Jan 23, 2025, at 7:25 AM, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Hi everyone,
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> Thanks to all who’ve shown interest in the idea of Agentic Linked Data.
> The conversations so far have been great!
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> As requested, I’ve put together a short document to gather thoughts,
> ideas, and participants. It’s a living document, so feel free to jump in,
> add your name, share your expertise, or propose new topics:
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> https://hackmd.io/@jSWt69rrQAKeUTsa_s49Qg/H16RCGRv1g
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> For convenience, here’s the content:
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> *Agentic Linked Data*
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> This document is based on discussions on the Solid mailing list around
> Agentic Linked Data [1]. It contains a list of participants who’ve shown
> interest.
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> *1. Discussion Participants So Far*
> Below is a list of participants with a short description of interest.
> Please edit the text as desired.
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>    - *Melvin Carvalho*: Initiated the discussion. Interested in Agents
>    and AI.
>    - *Joshua Cornejo*: Experienced in ODRL and authorization architecture.
>    - *Eric Jahn*: Interested in agent roles and permissions.
>    - *Aad Versteden*: Integrates AI and Linked Data in semantic.works.
>    - *Sindhu Raju*: Focuses on personal data management and consumer use
>    cases.
>    - *Matt Taylor*: Consultant in ethical tech, cautious about broad
>    agentic access.
>    - *Ram Mukund Kripa*: Developed privacy agents for consent management.
>    - *Jesse Wright*: Highlighted the Web Agents CG.
>    - *Jacob Beauchamp*: Exploring agentic learning and entity data.
>    - *Knut-Olav Hoven*: Agent Linked Data.
>    - *Leonard Rosenthol*: C2PA and Trust Signals.
>    - *Harshvardhan J. Pandit*: Data Privacy Vocabularies (DPV).
>    - *Antoine Zimmermann*: Chair of Webagents CG, knowledge transfer.
>    - *Kurt Cagle*: Interested in how this is evolving.
>    - *Davi Ottenheimer*: Modelling Agents.
>    - *Mark Lizar*: Agents, privacy, legal aspects, and DPV.
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> *Add your name here!*
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> *2. Potential Topics of Interest*
> Below is a list of topics, in no particular order, that could be
> interesting to work on in the future:
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>    - A common understanding of the term "Agent"
>    - Deploying Agents to Solid Pods
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> *Add a topic here!*
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> [1] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-solid/2024Dec/0014.html
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> Next Steps:
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>    - We’ll consolidate ideas and propose a direction in the next *2 weeks*
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>    - Identify topics of interest and who’s keen to explore them further.
>    - Liaise with the Web Agents CG.
>    - Talk to folks in the Solid CG about structuring this (e.g., forming
>    a Task Force).
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> Please feel free to edit the document with your thoughts—we’ll tidy things
> up and summarize in the coming weeks.
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> Looking forward to an *Agentic 2025!*
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> Best wishes,
> Melvin
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