Re: Gitter Service ends Feb 6th

út 17. 1. 2023 v 12:51 odesílatel Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
napsal:

> Hi,
>
> If other platforms are to be looked at, and while waiting for a Solid
> based one,
> I suggest looking at Zulip. It has a lot of interesting features, such as
> allowing admins to move discussions to new channels, and people to create
> their
> own topics, so that discussion spaces can be created. Channels can be
> public or
> private, and public ones can be shared by URL.
>
> Here for example is a Web Cats stream o the categorytheory zulip channel
> where I
> was discussing Solid for example
>
>
> https://categorytheory.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/229156-practice.3A-applied-ct


Thanks for the suggestion

I'm unsure that this will gain traction, but thanks for the food for
thought.  Let's see

I'll suggest that it is desirable in this group (but not a must) for chat
messages to have bookmarkable hyperlinks

Zulip offers that, but with an overloading of the '#' character which is
generally used differently in Solid

Matrix/Element, from what I have seen, has a share link, again with a '#'
character that will redirect you to open a client

There might be a matrix client and server with stable URIs tho, I'm not so
familiar with that world


>
>
> The IETF has moved to using Zulip, though I don’t think they are making
> very good
> use of it. They are using it as a way to log conversations had in some
> virtual world
> space. But it would be much better if people used it to communicate
> directly.
>
> Henry
>
>
> > On 17. Jan 2023, at 11:34, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > The Gitter service is ending on 6th Feb
> >
> >
> https://blog.gitter.im/2023/01/16/gitter-is-going-fully-native-matrix-in-feb-2023/
> >
> > We initiated this platform to facilitate real-time discussions regarding
> assorted solid repositories as well as a general chat room.
> >
> > I found the solution to be satisfactory, however, I was somewhat
> disappointed when they implemented Google Analytics into the code base, as
> this is seen in many parts of the community as an invasion of privacy
> >
> > This leaves the community with two issues:
> >
> > 1. What about the history
> >
> > I wonder if the various history links will sill work, and for how long
> >
> > I thought someone wrote a gitter/solid bridge, perhaps it would be good
> to keep an archive of the history of the project, if that's not stored
> auatomatically
> >
> > 2. New chat area
> >
> > Gitter is encouraging a transition to the Matrix/Element service.
> Although the speed, functionality, and commercialization of that service
> has not been entirely satisfactory, it may represent the most
> straightforward way of creating a unified and organized chat platform
> across the community.
> >
> > It may be worth exploring the possibility of using Solid for chat,
> though I am unsure if the UX is prepared to work with a large group. As a
> starting point, I suggest we run a Solid chat room in parallel to whatever
> comes next, though it would likely initially be with a limited number of
> participants.
> >
> > Perhaps we could start a single room, say, on Mattias' solidweb which is
> a running grass roots solid server.  We would need to circulate an agreed
> upon URL for this to work.
> >
> > It could be beneficial to consider using Solid for chat, though based on
> the current low volume of chat on gitter it may not be a major concern.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> Henry Story
>
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