- From: Jim DeLaHunt <list+w3c@jdlh.com>
- Date: Fri, 22 May 2026 15:10:26 -0700
- To: Pia Bregulla <pia@joinmastodon.org>
- Cc: Darius Kazemi <darius.kazemi@gmail.com>, public-swicg@w3.org, Social Web Working Group <public-socialweb@w3.org>, emelia <emelia@brandedcode.com>
- Message-ID: <eb2e27d8-0269-4068-b56d-bb1228e9bc66@jdlh.com>
Pia:
That is awesome. Thank you for stepping up!
—Jim DeLaHunt
On 2026-05-22 00:35, Pia Bregulla wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I will represent Mastodon in this taskforce, as soon as it is formed.
>
> Cheers,
> Pia
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2026 at 12:16 PM emelia <emelia@brandedcode.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> Someone else may correct me on this but task forces usually don't
> do that type of outreach, the outreach that they do do is
> typically "what can we do to make this specification text more
> likely to be adopted by you?"
>
> The type of outreach you're describing typically happens in
> parallel to standards track work; being the lead, co-lead, etc of
> a task force does help give you reputation or social standing to
> more easily do that work, but it's not something within the
> purview of task forces typically. (Also just to clarify, working
> on a task force is unpaid, unless you get a grant from somewhere
> to cover your work)
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> — Emelia
>
>> On 21. May 2026, at 06:50, Jim DeLaHunt <list+w3c@jdlh.com
>> <mailto:list%2Bw3c@jdlh.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Emilia:
>>
>> Agreed, the framing is slightly different. I probably should have
>> picked a different word than "internationalisation", because to
>> me it means "ensure that the architecture and specs permit
>> non-Latin characters in handles". What I want to do is partly
>> outreach, finding users who want those non-Latin characters and
>> developers who want to equip them with software; and partly
>> advocacy, asserting that non-Latin characters ought to exist in
>> Fediverse handles and actively trying to make that happen.
>>
>> If a task force with mandate #1 and my more expansive #2 is on
>> offer, and if there are wise people willing to hold my hand as I
>> figure out how things are done here, then yes, I'm willing to
>> [co-]lead such a task force.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> —Jim
>>
>> On 2026-05-20 20:15, Emelia S. wrote:
>>> Hi Jim,
>>>
>>> So my framing is different, the taskforce is "Taskforce For
>>> Handles" to formalize that, and as part of the "architectural
>>> weaknesses" (1) I'm including the lack of internationalization
>>> (2). So the taskforce is explicitly doing both, because in
>>> today's W3C a CG/WG report that does not take into account
>>> internationalization would not pass to standardization.
>>>
>>> We need to define handles before we can strictly
>>> internationalize them, but part of defining them is making sure
>>> that are internationlized.
>>>
>>> Jim, Would you be willing to co-lead a taskforce with mandate of
>>> #1 + #2 ? I would be willing to act as "as I have time co-lead"
>>> (which is difficult for me). If I had time and money, I'd
>>> volunteer to lead myself, but I don't, so I need other people to
>>> setup up to help lead and do much the the day-to-day and I can
>>> help with process things.
>>>
>>> — Emelia
>>>
>>>> On 21 May 2026, at 04:48, Jim DeLaHunt <list+w3c@jdlh.com>
>>>> <mailto:list+w3c@jdlh.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I plan to attend the joint WG-CG call on May 21. I am
>>>> interested in the "task force for the internationalisation of
>>>> handles" topic.
>>>>
>>>> As far as I understand the state of discussion, there are is a
>>>> question of mandate and a question of leader duty. I described
>>>> my interests in
>>>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swicg/2026May/0013.html>
>>>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swicg/2026May/0013.html>.
>>>>
>>>> I hear two mandates being discussed: 1. work on architectural
>>>> weaknesses related to handles, 2. work on internationalisation
>>>> issues, some of which are non-technical, some of which are
>>>> technical and involve handles. Can one task force take on both
>>>> mandates? Should there be two task forces? Can we collectively
>>>> make progress on both at once? I suggest that this might be a
>>>> possible discussion topic tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> I am willing to lead a task force which includes mandate #2,
>>>> although with the reservation that I am new here and know
>>>> little about this group and the Fediverse processes. I am
>>>> willing to be a member of, but not a leader of, a task force
>>>> which has mandate #1 but not #2. I will have a lot to learn
>>>> about the architecture and its weaknesses. Who else are
>>>> potential leaders, and task force members? This might also be a
>>>> possible discussion topic tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> I look forward to talking to you all tomorrow.
>>>> —Jim DeLaHunt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2026-05-20 13:16, emelia wrote:
>>>>> I thought I had formally proposed a handles taskforce, I just
>>>>> couldn't lead it, but I could be a shadow lead to help a less
>>>>> experienced lead with process/practice. There were iirc
>>>>> several others interested in co-chairing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Emelia
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20. May 2026, at 20:12, Darius Kazemi
>>>>>> <darius.kazemi@gmail.com> <mailto:darius.kazemi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apologies for getting this to you so late but I have the
>>>>>> minutes from the May 1 joint WG-CG call available here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/socialwg/blob/main/meetings/2026/2026-05-01-CG-WG-joint.md
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks again to Evan for scribing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some highlights:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Discussion around the legal issues w/r/t FEPs being used
>>>>>> as inputs
>>>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/socialwg/blob/main/meetings/2026/2026-05-01-CG-WG-joint.md#participation-without-cla>
>>>>>> to W3C specs. There's now a related issue on the FEP repo
>>>>>> <https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/issues/844>
>>>>>> - Discussion of a proposal for formation of a task force for
>>>>>> internationalization of handles
>>>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/socialwg/blob/main/meetings/2026/2026-05-01-CG-WG-joint.md#task-force-for-internationalization-of-handles>.
>>>>>> We need volunteers to step up and formally propose this on
>>>>>> the CG mailing list who would also be interested in leading
>>>>>> the task force.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The May 21 joint call is tomorrow, and the agenda template is
>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/socialwg/issues/10
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please comment on the issue if you'd like something added to
>>>>>> the agenda.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Darius Kazemi
>>>>>> Chair, W3C Social Web WG
>>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> . --Jim DeLaHunt @jdlh@mstdn.ca, Vancouver, Canada
>>>
>> --
>> . --Jim DeLaHunt @jdlh@mstdn.ca, Vancouver, Canada
>
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. --Jim DeLaHunt @jdlh@mstdn.ca, Vancouver, Canada
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