Re: Next WG-CG call is tomorrow, plus minutes for May 1 call

Emilia:

Agreed, the framing is slightly different. I probably should have picked 
a different word than "internationalisation", because to me it means 
"ensure that the architecture and specs permit non-Latin characters in 
handles". What I want to do is partly outreach, finding users who want 
those non-Latin characters and developers who want to equip them with 
software; and partly advocacy, asserting that non-Latin characters ought 
to exist in Fediverse handles and actively trying to make that happen.

If a task force with mandate #1 and my more expansive #2 is on offer, 
and if there are wise people willing to hold my hand as I figure out how 
things are done here, then yes, I'm willing to [co-]lead such a task force.

Cheers,
     —Jim

On 2026-05-20 20:15, Emelia S. wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> So my framing is different, the taskforce is "Taskforce For Handles" 
> to formalize that, and as part of the "architectural weaknesses" (1) 
> I'm including the lack of internationalization (2). So the taskforce 
> is explicitly doing both, because in today's W3C a CG/WG report that 
> does not take into account internationalization would not pass to 
> standardization.
>
> We need to define handles before we can strictly internationalize 
> them, but part of defining them is making sure that are internationlized.
>
> Jim, Would you be willing to co-lead a taskforce with mandate of #1 + 
> #2 ? I would be willing to act as "as I have time co-lead" (which is 
> difficult for me). If I had time and money, I'd volunteer to lead 
> myself, but I don't, so I need other people to setup up to help lead 
> and do much the the day-to-day and I can help with process things.
>
> — Emelia
>
>> On 21 May 2026, at 04:48, Jim DeLaHunt <list+w3c@jdlh.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I plan to attend the joint WG-CG call on May 21. I am interested in 
>> the "task force for the internationalisation of handles" topic.
>>
>> As far as I understand the state of discussion, there are is a 
>> question of mandate and a question of leader duty. I described my 
>> interests in 
>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swicg/2026May/0013.html>.
>>
>> I hear two mandates being discussed: 1. work on architectural 
>> weaknesses related to handles, 2. work on internationalisation 
>> issues, some of which are non-technical, some of which are technical 
>> and involve handles. Can one task force take on both mandates? Should 
>> there be two task forces?  Can we collectively make progress on both 
>> at once? I suggest that this might be a possible discussion topic 
>> tomorrow.
>>
>> I am willing to lead a task force which includes mandate #2, although 
>> with the reservation that I am new here and know little about this 
>> group and the Fediverse processes. I am willing to be a member of, 
>> but not a leader of, a task force which has mandate #1 but not #2. I 
>> will have a lot to learn about the architecture and its weaknesses. 
>> Who else are potential leaders, and task force members? This might 
>> also be a possible discussion topic tomorrow.
>>
>> I look forward to talking to you all tomorrow.
>>      —Jim DeLaHunt
>>
>>
>> On 2026-05-20 13:16, emelia wrote:
>>> I thought I had formally proposed a handles taskforce, I just 
>>> couldn't lead it, but I could be a shadow lead to help a less 
>>> experienced lead with process/practice. There were iirc several 
>>> others interested in co-chairing?
>>>
>>> Emelia
>>>
>>>> On 20. May 2026, at 20:12, Darius Kazemi <darius.kazemi@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Apologies for getting this to you so late but I have the minutes 
>>>> from the May 1 joint WG-CG call available here:
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/w3c/socialwg/blob/main/meetings/2026/2026-05-01-CG-WG-joint.md
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again to Evan for scribing.
>>>>
>>>> Some highlights:
>>>>
>>>>  - Discussion around the legal issues w/r/t FEPs being used as 
>>>> inputs 
>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/socialwg/blob/main/meetings/2026/2026-05-01-CG-WG-joint.md#participation-without-cla> 
>>>> to W3C specs. There's now a related issue on the FEP repo 
>>>> <https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/issues/844>
>>>>  - Discussion of a proposal for formation of a task force for 
>>>> internationalization of handles 
>>>> <https://github.com/w3c/socialwg/blob/main/meetings/2026/2026-05-01-CG-WG-joint.md#task-force-for-internationalization-of-handles>. 
>>>> We need volunteers to step up and formally propose this on the CG 
>>>> mailing list who would also be interested in leading the task force.
>>>>
>>>> The May 21 joint call is tomorrow, and the agenda template is here:
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/w3c/socialwg/issues/10
>>>>
>>>> Please comment on the issue if you'd like something added to the 
>>>> agenda.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Darius Kazemi
>>>> Chair, W3C Social Web WG
>>>>
>> -- 
>> .    --Jim DeLaHunt @jdlh@mstdn.ca, Vancouver, Canada
>
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.    --Jim DeLaHunt @jdlh@mstdn.ca, Vancouver, Canada