Re: Clarify objections to JSON [was Re: Getting the group back on track]

The distinction between note and article is partly length, and partly
structure. Empirically, notes tend to come from a plaintext UI and get
decorated by convention (autolinking etc; ) whereas Articles are more
likely to come from a rich editor and have title, summary, subheads, rich
link text and markup and so on.

https://www.w3.org/wiki/Post-type-discovery explicitly looks for more
structure, falling back on a note if it isn't found.



On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 4:06 PM, James M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com> wrote:

> Jason,
>
> Thank you for the constructive feedback. The Content type is really
> intended as a base class for Article and Note (and others). Article is
> really intended for things like blog entries or news articles. Note is
> intended for short status type notes or comments. That said, however,
> Note could easily fill the purpose you describe.
>
> - James
>
> On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Jason Robinson <mail@jasonrobinson.me>
> wrote:
> > Hi James,
> >
> > Yes, I meant the vocab. For object types, diaspora* currently supports,
> from
> > the AS2 vocab, Image, Question, Place, Mention, Profile. Events support
> will
> > come at some point. For actual status messages, I'm hesitant to say which
> > object would be used. Note, Article and Content seem very similar - and
> in
> > diaspora* everything is just a status message, whether short one liner
> or a
> > 30K char markdown formatted blog post. I guess Note might still be the
> right
> > one. Likely incoming parsing would squash all three as the same. I guess
> a
> > comment would just be Content|Note|Article with an "inReplyTo" attribute.
> >
> > Sorry if I sounded too critical. My email was meant to come as "let's go
> > with this and move forward", not "let's spend time trimming AS2 down". As
> > Christopher replied already - nothing forces implementers to support all
> of
> > the vocab :) The AS2 spec is a good piece of work and there seems to be
> > clear signs of support for adopting it.
> >
> > Br,
> > Jason
> >
> >
> >
> > On 22.10.2015 22:54, James M Snell wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello Jason,
> >>
> >> Would you be able to provide some specific insight into which pieces
> >> of the vocabulary aren't useful for diaspora? I assume that the
> >> vocabulary is what you're primarily speaking about in terms of
> >> "trimming down".
> >>
> >> - James
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Jason Robinson <mail@jasonrobinson.me
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> [snip]
> >>>
> >>> AS2 is very ... large, but imho that is not all bad. It could be
> trimmed
> >>> down, but then again it should have the necessary structures to compose
> >>> messages with. The bad thing is the larger it is, the less implementers
> >>> will
> >>> be able to implement all of it. I can say for example for the needs of
> >>> the
> >>> current features in diaspora*, only a small subset can be used - the
> rest
> >>> of
> >>> it would just have to be ignored or parsed in to more basic structures
> >>> (like
> >>> I think Note would be the basic "status message", which could be a
> >>> catch-all
> >>> when something isn't supported).
> >>>
> >> [snip]
> >
> >
> > --
> > -----
> > Br,
> > Jason Robinson
> > https://jasonrobinson.me
> >
> >
> >
>
>