RE: Social Web WG agenda for 11 August 2015

I understand what Aaron and others confirmed below, re: the "Entirely Positive" stories.

I was asking about the stories classified as "Minor Objections" and more. I understood some months ago, it would be helpful if the IG worked through the set of minor objections, to see if we could resolve the objections.  In most cases, those objections hang on relatively minor nuances of language, or the ways in which those stories were written – which appear to be easily resolved with some discussion and modest re-writing.

That's what we, the IG folks, were doing – hosting / facilitating discussion with the objectors, to see if we could resolve the objections. We had some really interesting discussions. But, we had some logistical problems, and not all objectors were in our meeting.  Thus, we suggested holding such discussions during the "off" weeks of the WG meeting time.

We understand the WG is under pressure to deliver APIv1 by the end of this year and do not want to get in your way. At the same time, my understanding is that the IG has greater latitude to document a larger set of stories, vocabulary(s), etc – for future possibilities. Perhaps, for instance, you will want to use the "Minor Objection" stories for APIv2. If we can resolve the issues now, then they'd be ready when you need them.

QUESTIONS:

A)     Would this useful, or not?

B)      If yes, is it helpful to meet during the WG's meeting time, on the 'off' weeks?

C)      What else could the IG be doing that would support the WG's work?

-- Ann



Ann Bassetti
The Boeing Company
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From: Aaron Parecki [mailto:aaron@parecki.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 7:43 AM
To: Melvin Carvalho
Cc: Bassetti, Ann; Social Web Working Group; Social Interest Group
Subject: Re: Social Web WG agenda for 11 August 2015

Ben clarified this during the call, and I dug up a permalink for the previous resolution. We had agreed to approve all the stories that had *only* +1 votes, since by having no 0's or -1, nobody was even doubting them.

http://socialwg.indiewebcamp.com/irc/social/2015-08-11#t1439315941741


https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-05-12-minutes#approve-all-plus-one-user-stories



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On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 2:13 AM, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com<mailto:melvincarvalho@gmail.com>> wrote:


On 11 August 2015 at 09:58, Bassetti, Ann <ann.bassetti@boeing.com<mailto:ann.bassetti@boeing.com>> wrote:
Hi Social Folks --

I just entered my regrets into the wiki, for tomorrow's WG meeting.  I'm hoping this will be the last week I'm out. (Been working really hard  on my 94-year-old Mom's house, and with home health care providers, seeking as many assistive options as we can think of, so she can continue to live independently.)

One idea we had in the Social IG meeting a couple weeks ago, was to use the Social WG  'off' week meeting times, to meet with WG folks (whoever we can get to show up) -- to try and talk through the objections on various user stories. Many of the ones with 'minor' objections seem based in nuance of language, about how the story was written -- more than objection to the fundamental concept of the story.

Although we've had some really interesting discussions within the IG, and with a couple WG 'objectors' attending, it seems clear we need more WG involvement in these discussions.

If the WG A) still thinks it would be useful to work through the user story objections; and, B) thinks it would be OK to use the alternating 'off' weeks for such discussion -- I will set it up for next Tuesday.

Hi Ann
The question of approved user stories was raised in yesterday's meeting.  Evan said that he seemed to recall that all the +1 user stories and the +1/0 user stories might be considered approved.  We weren't 100% sure on the call, I think a couple of people said they would check back on this.  Seems a reasonable approach.  Also note a few of the user stories now have existing implementations.


I'm looking forward to getting back to this!

 -- AnnB

Ann Bassetti
The Boeing Company

From: Arnaud Le Hors
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 11:58 AM
To: public-socialweb@w3.org<mailto:public-socialweb@w3.org>
Subject: Social Web WG agenda for 11 August 2015


Now available:
https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2015-08-11

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Arnaud  Le Hors - Senior Technical Staff Member, Open Web Technologies - IBM Software Group