Re: cooperation between W3C and schema.org

And to be completely honest, some level of duplication is perfectly
acceptable.
On Nov 29, 2014 3:13 AM, "Harry Halpin" <hhalpin@w3.org> wrote:

> On 11/29/2014 02:06 AM, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ wrote:
> > On 10/29/2014 06:40 PM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote:
> >> The meeting at the W3C TPAC today,
> >> https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC2014/SessionIdeas#Schema.org_and_Social_WG,
> >> brought up some interesting issues.
> >>
> >> However, I'm still uncertain as to how much interaction is being pursued
> >> or proposed.  Does anyone know this, or is it still too early to know?
> >>
>
> I believe that the schema.org team is working on a solution to the issue
> and one will be posted in due time - these sort of things do not happen
> overnight, but I hope happen sooner rather than later. From the Social
> Web WG's perspective, the absolute latest we'd want a solution to be in
> place by the time any of our specs go into Last Call, which is mid to
> late 2015.
>
> In the mean time, replicating URIs of existing widely-deployed
> vocabularies like schema.org in W3C-Rec track documents is to
> discouraged as causing fragmentation to the Web, and it would only be
> acceptable in Last Call if there was not a resolution from schema.org
> that W3C members like IBM found acceptable. Something in the space of
> the solution of "snapshots" sounds fine to me and was supported by the
> W3C at TPAC, and the coupling could be much looser than in HTML5 which
> would make things easier than in Sam Ruby's proposal.
>
>      cheers,
>        harry
>
> >> peter
> >
> > Howdy o/
> >
> > I noticed on public-w3process list proposal by Sam Ruby on how WHATWG
> > and W3C could collaborate:
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-w3process/2014Nov/0147.html
> >
> > Schema.org may already work much closer with W3C thanks to Web Schemas
> > group, but it looks like we still need more clarity on collaboration
> > strategy.
> >
> > Currently James M Snell works in W3C Social WG on Activity Streams
> > Extended/Expanded Vocabulary:
> >
> > * https://www.w3.org/wiki/Activity_Streams/Expanded_Vocabulary
> > *
> >
> http://rawgit.com/jasnell/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/extended-vocabulary/activitystreams2-vocabulary.html#extendedtypes
> > *
> >
> http://rawgit.com/jasnell/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/extended-vocabulary/activitystreams2.html
> >
> > While I must admit finding it amazing that he wrote tons of great
> > examples in JSON-LD, Microdata, RDFa, Microformats and Turtle. I also
> > still see it as certain duplication of efforts and possibly creating
> > parallel and not well aligned web universes (Please let me know if I
> > sound like an old broken record)
> >
> > I wonder if possibility exists to publish Schema.org snapshots in W3C
> > namespace. I think this would open much stronger possibility for
> > aligning Schema.org, Activity Streams and other efforts. Also hopefully
> > would address concerns related to dependence on schema.org domain
> > controlled by Google Inc.
> >
> > To finish on positive side, I also try to follow recent conversations in
> > Hydra CG about common grounds with Data Shapes:
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-hydra/2014Nov/0048.html
> >
> > I recall Sandro Hawke mentioning its relevance during Schema.org +
> > Social WG meeting at TPAC!
> >
> > Ciao :)
> >
>
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