Social IG meeting minutes Sept 3rd

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03 Sep 2014

   See also: [2]IRC log

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2014/09/03-socialig-irc

Attendees

   Present
   Regrets
   Chair
          MarkCrawford

   Scribe
          hhalpin

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Tracker and issues
         2. [5]TPAC reminder
         3. [6]use-cases
         4. [7]Architecture
     * [8]Summary of Action Items
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   <scribe> scribe: hhalpin

   <lehawes> Larry Hawes just logged in

   <lloydfassett> zakin, 5418482440 is lloydfassett

   <lehawes> I'm probably P26

   <lehawes> Harry: thanks!

   <elf-pavlik> lloydfassett, i did it!

   <lehawes> I'm calling from 978 area

   <lehawes> but using Google Voice, which usually shows up as a
   SV area code

   MarkCrawford: Welcome everyone
   ... Ed Krebs from Ford will be joining us as an invited expert
   ... he's going to contribute to the use-cases and participated
   in the workshop last year
   ... I'm very pleased he's participating going forward
   ... we are workig on Microsoft
   ... it would be great if someone from Microsoft could be OK.
   ... still working on minutes on 20th

   haven't had time to manually convert those IRC logs

   scribe: notes will be posted on wikipage
   ... will create a wiki page for each meeting similar to how
   Social WG is doing it.
   ... any questions?

Tracker and issues

   MarkCrawford: Will set up tracker with issues shortly and then
   announce

   <lehawes> harry: I'm muted locally, so no need to do so via
   Zakim

TPAC reminder

   MarkCrawford: Please register
   ... you can also attend both WG and IG as an observer
   ... yesterday on WG call we discussed the co-oridnaton between
   the two
   ... the IG, as discussed on our last call, we'll co-ordinate
   with the WG
   ... do people want a separate meeting of the IG?
   ... if we do, we'd need to do it at a time that wouldn't
   interfere with the WG
   ... any thoughts?

   <lehawes> Yes, we should have a separate meeting of the IG.
   Would hate to miss the opportunity for F2F discussion/work.

   MarkCrawford: we'll try to engage with the next meeting

use-cases

   MarkCrawford: Did set-up a wiki
   ... there is a page for each of the task force

   for example see
   [10]https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialig/Architecture_TF

     [10] https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialig/Architecture_TF

   Markus: So I haven't done that yet

   <lloydfassett> What is the link to the agenda?

   <MarkCrawford> I am

   Markus: so if you have interest in working on deliverables, can
   you identify yourself in IRC

   <lloydfassett> I am signed up for Vocabulary

   +1

   <jasnell> +1

   <lwgoix> +1

   <Arnaud> lloydfassett, here is the agenda:
   [11]https://www.w3.org/wiki/2014-09-03

     [11] https://www.w3.org/wiki/2014-09-03

   MarkCrawford: There's going to be some overlap
   ... would like to start out

   <elf-pavlik> +q

   Markus: Some of the use-cases seem very broad

   <lehawes> elf-pavlik: question is whether you're interested in
   participating in use case development for IG

   MarkCrawford: There's use-cases in the CTO guide to Social
   Business and XG report you could draw from

   Markus: We'll have to collect them and prioritize them

   MarkCrawford: Speaking from the architecture report perspective
   ... this will definitey help

   Markus: Can we produce a document that will be useful when we
   formally meet up

   <elf-pavlik> I suggested to *selfdogfood* and take some of the
   use cases related to workflows in W3C

   <elf-pavlik> thank you :)

   <lehawes> harry: I've got my audio muted again now. btw, it was
   me speaking about use cases, not "lehawes"

   MarkCrawford: Right now, its just very brief entries in the
   wiki
   ... we'll need amplificaitons of those
   ... where will things be uesful

Architecture

   <elf-pavlik> +1

   <jasnell> +1

   +1

   <MarkCrawford> +1

   MarkCrawford: I did set up an architecture page
   ... created a link to Jeff Jaffe's report to the AC
   ... with an architecture block diagram
   ... subsequent work by Ann on this
   ... we could start with that

   <elf-pavlik> schema.org/Actions & Hydra (W3C CG)

   <jasnell> AS2, schema.org/Actions, and Hydra ... it's
   specifically focused on Actions right now. It's only one part

   MarkCrawford: There is some WG comparisons between schema.org
   and AS
   ... discussions in very early stages

   <elf-pavlik>
   [12]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-socialweb/2014Se
   p/0006.html

     [12]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-socialweb/2014Sep/0006.html

   <jasnell> the discussion has been happening on the socialig and
   socialwg mailing list. However, some individuals from Google
   have participated in the conversation by cc

   Arnaud, only members can post

   <jasnell> specifically... Sam Goto

   Sam Goto's posts are likely not going through

   I suggest we set up a read/write list (comments)

   <elf-pavlik> +1 harry

   and then cc the conversation between you and Sam there

   I'll request that today

   <jasnell> I will forward Sam's responses

   <lehawes> MarkCrawford: It looks like Lloyd dropped off phone
   and IRC

   MarkCrawford: Can you see what other groups are interested in
   vocabulary effort

   <MarkCrawford> yes

   jasnell, just forward to WG list until we get a comments list
   going

   <lloydfassett> sorry...don't know how that happened. Will call
   backin

   jasnell: Conversation between myself and Sam Goto

   <elf-pavlik> ack, jasnell

   MarkCrawford: I haven't asked internally at SAP between
   schema.org or another vocabulary

   <lehawes> jasnell: It would be great to see if anyone from WG
   wants to have input on IG use cases as well

   MarkCrawford: my personal opinion is the less the better

   jasnell: I agree, but we want to have that conversation in the
   WG

   MarkCrawford: Is that an action to have a liasion?

   lloydfassett: please send comments to mailing list

   <lehawes> lwgoix: What is your full name please?

   MarkCrawford: We may want to consider ourselves being proactive

   <jasnell> I'm good with that, just need to identify which
   groups to announce ourselves to

   MarkCrawford: one of responsibilities is messaging and if we
   can support them with requirements

   <elf-pavlik> +1 announcing Social(IG/WG) to other groups we see
   relevant

   <lehawes> MarkCrawford: +1 on "marketing" IG to other WGs

   <jasnell> no further business at this time

   MarkCrawford: AOB?
   ... Next call is Sept 17th
   ... just ask Harry and myself now

   <lehawes> MarkCrawford: I will not be able to participate in
   9/17 meeting, due to a conference conflict. Sorry!

   I'm happy to chair if Mark can't make it

   <elf-pavlik> thanks MarkCrawford & harry for chairing and
   scribing!!!

   MarkCrawford: Thanks for participating everyone
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