Re: social business "players"

Hi:

Here is a list of social technology that can be involved in the workshop:

Hojoki
Acquia
Igloo
Jive
Saba
Atlassian

2012/12/5 Krebs, Edward (E.C.) <ekrebs@ford.com>

>  As an IT architect, this thread brings up an interesting observation.
> Last year, Gartner noted that the social business software market was, at
> the enterprise level, somewhat steady with the same players as the previous
> year. They also noted that the predominant market was in the
> horizontal/platform arena. ****
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> This year we saw an explosion of domain/vertical specific applications.
> For example, Vuuch is very project management, Product Development focused.
> ITinvolve is focused solely on IT service desk types of use cases. ****
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> The social business strategists and architects I talk to in many companies
> will struggle with this, and it’s going to take years for the market to
> settle out. Complicating this is a race by some companies to add a social
> component into their existing product. As an example, IBM’s new BPM
> software version has a social discussion widget. It does NOT even integrate
> with their own IBM Connections product, much less consider how you would
> substitute and integrate  your company’s current solution.  ****
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> In my opinion, it won’t make sense for a company to buy 20 different
> social business technologies – it will be hard to be “social” and do it in
> silos! On the other hand, as I mentioned during my cascade of our social
> business framework, there can’t be one solution either.****
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> This suggests that beyond the corporate (user) side of the equation,
> having robust discussion with providers that offer vertical and those
> offering horizontal platforms involved may get to insight on how these
> disparate systems ought to play together. ****
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> To contribute to the original question, I’ve had this interoperability
> conversation with IBM, Yammer/Microsoft, Jive, Tibbr, SocialCast, Cisco and
> have it on my list to talk with SalesForce since our financial company uses
> them. Most are on board, several are involved in the W3C standards work.
> Yammer is/was not, we’re pushing Microsoft to change their mind.
> Interestingly, in the two vertical cases of ITinvolve and Vuuch that I
> talked to, neither were interested in how they’ll play in an overall
> corporate social business architecture and strategy (although a funny
> ITinvolve salesperson tried to tell me their platform could/should be our
> corporate solution!) . To me this suggests we need to get more
> visibility/discussion with and around these domain specific type providers
> around the business need and opportunities for standards-driven
> architectures. ****
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> Regards,
> Edward C. Krebs
> Enterprise Architect, Advanced IT and Research
> Enterprise Technologies
> Ford Motor Company Information Technology ****
>
> *Quote of the day:*
> "The best way to predict the future is to invent it." --* Alan Kay* ****
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> *From:* sfermigier@gmail.com [mailto:sfermigier@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Stéfane
> Fermigier
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2012 2:44 AM
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> *To:* Bassetti, Ann
> *Cc:* public-socbizcg@w3.org
> *Subject:* Re: social business "players"****
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> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Bassetti, Ann <ann.bassetti@boeing.com>
> wrote:****
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> Hey, Stéfane – that's really excellent!  Sorry to say, I have never heard
> of any of them. ****
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> That's the main issue most french software vendors have, unfortunately. **
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>  ****
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>  Just goes to show how much variation there is in the world.  I feel
> strongly, if we hold a workshop, we need to figure out how to pull many of
> these threads together.****
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> Indeed. ****
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>  What's your view on the W3C holding a workshop in this subject area?  If
> you think we should, what do you think the 'theme' or focus should be?****
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> I'm don't have a wide enough view of the issues at hand, at least one of
> them that is of interest to me is the question around standards (and the
> fact that there are so many of them to choose from...).****
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> As one of the organisers (and program vice-chairs) of the Open World Forum
> 2013 (see http://www.openworldforum.org/en for the 2012 edition) I guess
> that a workshop on "Open standards for the social business web" would be
> perfectly appropriate in this context, but maybe it's a bit too far in the
> future (OWF2013 will take place in October 2013).****
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>   S.****
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>   -- Ann ****
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> *From:* Stéfane Fermigier [mailto:sfermigier@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Stefane
> Fermigier
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2012 11:02 PM
> *To:* Bassetti, Ann
> *Cc:* public-socbizcg@w3.org
> *Subject:* Re: social business "players"****
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>  ****
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> Ann,****
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>  FYI, here's a list of French companies creating soclal business
> applications:****
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> - Abilian (my company)****
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> - Azendoo****
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> - Jalios****
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> - Jamespot****
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> - Knowings****
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> - Knowledge­‐Plaza****
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> - SeeMy****
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> -TalkSpirit****
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> - XWiki****
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> - Yoolink****
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> Here's a list of french consultancies around social business:****
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> - Lecko****
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> - NextModernity****
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> These are the people we regularly hear from in France.****
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> Here's also a list of professional events happening in Paris around social
> business:****
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> - E2.0 Summit Paris (http://www.e20summit.de/)****
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> (OK it's a bit short at this point, I may be missing some information).***
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> Regards,****
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>   S.****
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> On Dec 5, 2012, at 2:32 AM, Bassetti, Ann wrote:****
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> Hi All –****
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> Thinking about the kinds of companies or people we might want to attract
> to a Soc Biz Workshop, I searched on "social business" (duh!).  Very quick
> searches; by no means comprehensive nor representative, turns up examples
> such as:****
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> ·         An event held in Europe last summer:
> http://www.socialbusinessforum.com/category/speakers/ (Just to give a
> broad list of people who have apparently stood up in public and promoted
> these ideas.)  Appears that event was probably sponsored by an org called
> OpenKnowledge, who says they are an international company specialized in
> Social Business Design:  http://www.open-knowledge.it/en****
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>  ****
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> ·         Another similar event – "Social Business Summit"
> http://www.socialbusinesssummit.com/ sponsored by the Dachis Group, a
> self-described "social marketing optimization software solutions leader"
> http://www.dachisgroup.com/about-us/ .  I note that IBM is a big sponsor
> of both of those events.****
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> Companies we regularly hear from are: IBM, Microsoft, Cisco, Salesforce,
> Jive, Yammer (now owned by Microsoft).  Sorry, Mark, I probably wouldn't be
> in a position to hear if SAP is ringing our bells... likely they are!  Look
> also at the list of sponsors for the first event to get ideas of others.**
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> My main point is, there is a LOT of activity going on regarding "social
> business".  Who are the key participants, opinion makers and users we want
> to attract? How will we snag them?  What do they need, from a standards
> point-of-view? Those examples represent some European and American
> situations.  What's going on elsewhere?  etc... ****
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> There's so much more to know and consider than the teeny bits we've talked
> about.  Part of feeling more comfortable with promoting a workshop is to do
> some of that research.****
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>   -- Ann****
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> --
> Stefane Fermigier, tech entrepreneur
> http://fermigier.com/ - http://twitter.com/sfermigier -
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/sfermigier
> "Well done is better than well said." - Benjamin Franklin
> "There's no such thing as can't. You always have a choice." - Ken Gor****
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> --
> --
> Stefane Fermigier, tech entrepreneur
> http://fermigier.com/ - http://twitter.com/sfermigier -
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/sfermigier
> "Well done is better than well said." - Benjamin Franklin
> "There's no such thing as can't. You always have a choice." - Ken Gor****
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