- From: Wilson, Kirk D <Kirk.Wilson@ca.com>
- Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 09:17:52 -0400
- To: "John Arwe" <johnarwe@us.ibm.com>, <public-sml@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <F9576E62032243419E097FED5F0E75F30668148D@USILMS12.ca.com>
Please note that the most recent draft of the EPR note was published
just this morning [1] as comment #33 to [2]. This version employs
hyperlinks to the group's 20090512 Recommendations. This is as close to
final as I can get it!
[1] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/attachment.cgi?id=697
[2] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5341
<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5341>
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From: public-sml-request@w3.org [mailto:public-sml-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of John Arwe
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 9:06 AM
To: public-sml@w3.org
Subject: [w3c sml][agenda] 2009-05-18 SML
Len/Kirk, it appears you may be scribing this week.
Chair: when sending out an agenda, use following format
[w3c sml][agenda] yyyy-mm-dd SML in subject of email
([agenda] agreed to,
rest chair's convention)
Chair: when sending out an updated agenda, use following format,
"n" = update number, 1st update == 2, etc.
[w3c sml][agenda][ver n] yyyy-mm-dd SML in subject of email
([agenda] agreed to,
rest chair's convention)
Scribe: read entire agenda, your "to do"s around the scribe list are
time-sequenced so there is less to remember.
The WG's administrative home page documents:
The phone number to use for the SML WG teleconference:
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#phone
<http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#phone>
Participants are invited to join IRC channel:
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#irc
<http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#irc>
Teleconference Time and Length (one hour)
Pacific 9:30 AM - 10:30 AM
Mountain 10:30 AM - 11:30 AM
Central 11:30 AM - 12:30 PM
Eastern 12:30 PM - 1:30 PM
UK 5:30 PM - 6:30 PM
Paris 6:30 PM - 7:30 PM
Beijing 12:30 AM - 1:30 AM (sorry)
Publication moratorium for the rest of this year:
* None advertised
Proposed Agenda:
1. Prolog
1.1. Roll call (present/regrets/absent)
1.2. Selection of Scribe based on list below
New scribes see:
- Scribe Quick Start Guide
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
<http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm>
- Scribe FAQ
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html
<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html>
- Instructions (steps "n-...") at the end of this agenda for
reviewing
and sending out minutes
- PLEASE make any new Actions fully self-describing so they do not
require the minutes as context. We found it awkward in the past to
require going back to the minutes for context.
Last Scribe Date Member Name Regrets pending
2008-05-22 Lynn, James Until further notice
2009-01-08 Smith, Virginia First half of Mondays
(probably scribe-exempt)
2009-01-15 Gao, Sandy Second half of Mondays
(probably scribe-exempt)
2008-04-13 Charest, Len
2009-04-27 Wilson, Kirk
2009-05-11 Pandit, Kumar
Exempt Arwe, John
Exempt Henry Thompson
1.3. Approval of minutes from previous meeting(s):
- http://www.w3.org/XML/SML/#records
<http://www.w3.org/XML/SML/#records>
- 05/11 email expected later in the today from Kumar
1.4. "from the CG" http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#schedule
<http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#schedule>
- Nothing new
1.5. Action items: goes faster if you update yours before the meeting...
http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/sml/
<http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/sml/>
2. New Work
2.1. Triage bugs with no keywords or target
3. Existing Work
3.1. Review and attempt to reach consensus on other non-editorial bugs
targeted for the next draft.
Within each cluster, typically we look at them in this order
"decided" (after the 2-week grace period for responses ends)
"needsReview" (either we have consensus,
it's no longer needsReview,
or the editors need to re-spin the proposed text)
"hasProposal"
"externalComments + reviewerNotSatisfied" - even if closed,
e.g. 5543, 5562
"externalComments + neither( reviewerNotSatisfied
, reviewerSatisfied )"
aka "reach out again?"
others
3.2. Rec track documents
We are at Rec - woohoo!
http://www.w3.org/TR/ <http://www.w3.org/TR/>
http://www.w3.org/TR/sml/ <http://www.w3.org/TR/sml/>
http://www.w3.org/TR/sml-if/ <http://www.w3.org/TR/sml-if/>
http://www.w3.org/Press/ <http://www.w3.org/Press/>
http://www.w3.org/2009/04/sml-pressrelease.html.en
<http://www.w3.org/2009/04/sml-pressrelease.html.en>
http://www.w3.org/2009/04/sml-testimonial
<http://www.w3.org/2009/04/sml-testimonial>
Round of applause for
- our Editors, who suffered through our "nit-picking" and tools
the rest of us could ignore
- our Team Contacts, who were "blessed" with a small but
"spirited" group
- our Alumni, who moved on to Bigger & Better (or at least
Different) problems
3.3. EPR Note
- Final-Final draft of EPR Note was posted 5/1 for review
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009May/0001.html
<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009May/0001.html>
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5341
<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5341>
- Some editorial comments were fixed this week, e.g. references to
Rec-level SML & SML-IF
- Do we have consensus to publish as a Working Group Note ?
3.4. XLink Note (held over from last week when Len was out)
- XLink Note: comments due on CVS draft
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5561
<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5561>
We know it still needs the new reference wording to
align with Rec track documents
aka
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6806
<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6806>
What was outcome of discussion
with Henry 4/27 in telecon?
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Apr/att-0047/20090427
-sml-minutes.html#item08
<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Apr/att-0047/2009042
7-sml-minutes.html#item08>
Comment #17 I think we discussed a few
weeks ago.
When should the wg expect a Final-final
draft incorporating these known issues?
- Come with your comments (or better, email prior to the list)
4. Epilog
4.1. Scribe: update scribe list below in this meeting's minutes, for use
in the next meeting's agenda. Update the list below and sort it
(LRU), leaving people who will be out for an extended period
near
the bottom to keep the names of draftees for the current
meeting
near the top, so when the next agenda goes out people will know
if
their name is at or near the top of the list to scribe next.
Last Scribe Date Member Name Regrets pending
2008-05-22 Lynn, James Until further notice
2009-01-08 Smith, Virginia First half of Mondays
(probably scribe-exempt)
2009-01-15 Gao, Sandy Second half of Mondays
(probably scribe-exempt)
2008-04-13 Charest, Len
2009-04-27 Wilson, Kirk
2009-05-11 Pandit, Kumar
Exempt Arwe, John
Exempt Henry Thompson
4.2. Scribe: follow the steps in the Scribe Quick Start Guide through
"Generate minutes"
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
<http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm>
Also issue the command "rrsagent, make log public" since we are a
public working group.
DO NOT use tools that significantly change the source html, like
Word, to do your editing. Those tools make compare tools to
sanity
check the scribe's edits unusable even though it renders fine
visually (even here, some like Word remove W3C style sheets so it
renders with subtle differences).
4.3. Scribe: (optional, but most often followed)
Send the original and updated minutes to the meeting chair as an
editorial check before sending to the full list. Assume the chair
will use a compare tool.
4.4. Scribe: send the minutes to the public mailing list
After the meeting, follow the conventions we have agreed on within
the wg to help people search the email archives more
effectively,
namely:
[w3c sml][minutes] yyyy-mm-dd SML in subject of email
([minutes] agreed to,
rest chair's convention)
As with agendas, if minutes are updated include a [ver n] "tag" as
well.
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4.5. Chair
After meeting, update good standing list
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