- From: John Arwe <johnarwe@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:23:41 -0400
- To: public-sml@w3.org
- Message-ID: <OF0316E3B4.95A02305-ON85257607.004D6659-85257607.004F1328@us.ibm.com>
Marv, it appears you may be scribing this week (Len gave regrets already).
I'd recommend trying the procedure here once before you try it live.
Net agenda meat:
- approve 6/29 minutes (1.3)
- XLink comments (3.2)
- Schema bugs (3.3)
Chair: when sending out an agenda, use following format
[w3c sml][agenda] yyyy-mm-dd SML in subject of email
([agenda] agreed to,
rest chair's convention)
Chair: when sending out an updated agenda, use following format,
"n" = update number, 1st update == 2, etc.
[w3c sml][agenda][ver n] yyyy-mm-dd SML in subject of email
([agenda] agreed to,
rest chair's convention)
Scribe: read entire agenda, your "to do"s around the scribe list are
time-sequenced so there is less to remember.
The WG's administrative home page documents:
The phone number to use for the SML WG teleconference:
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#phone
Participants are invited to join IRC channel:
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#irc
Teleconference Time and Length (one hour)
Pacific 9:30 AM - 10:30 AM
Mountain 10:30 AM - 11:30 AM
Central 11:30 AM - 12:30 PM
Eastern 12:30 PM - 1:30 PM
UK 5:30 PM - 6:30 PM
Paris 6:30 PM - 7:30 PM
Beijing 12:30 AM - 1:30 AM (sorry)
Publication moratorium for the rest of this year:
* None advertised
Proposed Agenda:
1. Prolog
1.1. Roll call (present/regrets/absent)
1.2. Selection of Scribe based on list below
New scribes see:
- Scribe Quick Start Guide
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
- Scribe FAQ
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html
- Instructions (steps "n-...") at the end of this agenda for reviewing
and sending out minutes
- PLEASE make any new Actions fully self-describing so they do not
require the minutes as context. We found it awkward in the past to
require going back to the minutes for context.
Last Scribe Date Member Name Regrets pending
2009-07-?? Waschke, Marv
2008-06-08 Charest, Len
2009-01-08 Smith, Virginia First half of Mondays
(probably scribe-exempt)
2009-01-15 Gao, Sandy Second half of Mondays
(probably scribe-exempt)
Exempt Arwe, John
Exempt Henry Thompson
1.3. Approval of minutes from previous meeting(s):
Based on what I see, it appears there were no meetings in July whilst
I was gone.
- http://www.w3.org/XML/SML/#records
- 06/29
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Jun/att-0017/20090629-sml-minutes.html
1.4. "from the CG" http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#schedule
- Nothing new from the CG itself
- If you plan to attend TPAC (SML is not), registration is open.
- 2H2009 publication moratoria
27 October, 12pm ET: Deadline for publication requests before
moratorium
30 October: Last publications before moratorium
31 October - 8 November: No publications (that includes surrounding
weekends)
during TPAC in Santa Clara
9 November: Publications resume
18 December, 12pm ET: Deadline for publication requests
before moratorium
22 December: Last publications before moratorium
23 December - 3 January: No publications during "the" holidays
4 January 2010: Publications resume
1.5. Action items: none as of this writing
http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/sml/
2. New Work
2.1. Triage bugs with no keywords or target
- none as of this writing
3. Existing Work
3.1. Review and attempt to reach consensus on other non-editorial bugs
targeted for the next draft.
- none as of this writing
Within each cluster, typically we look at them in this order
"decided" (after the 2-week grace period for responses ends)
"needsReview" (either we have consensus,
it's no longer needsReview,
or the editors need to re-spin the proposed text)
"hasProposal"
"externalComments + reviewerNotSatisfied" - even if closed,
e.g. 5543, 5562
"externalComments + neither( reviewerNotSatisfied
, reviewerSatisfied )"
aka "reach out again?"
others
3.2. XLink and EPR Notes
- There is no evidence that the XML Core working group's comments on
the SML XLink Reference
Scheme Note have been discussed... have they, and if so where would
one find evidence of that?
XML Core has asked me about the disposition.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Jul/0000
3.3. XML Schema 1.1 comments
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6009
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6012
SML chose to endorse the two bugs above, and to not object when the
Schema 1.1 wg deferred
them into CR. Given that SML is tailing off, we should consider
whether or not the wg still
has sufficient interest to track these, or it wishes to leave Schema to
finish them as they
will. If the latter, we should communicate that to Schema so they
don't lose time
later and/or have to report "unresolved comments" on later Transitions.
4. Epilog
4.1. Scribe: update scribe list below in this meeting's minutes, for use
in the next meeting's agenda. Update the list below and sort it
(LRU), leaving people who will be out for an extended period near
the bottom to keep the names of draftees for the current meeting
near the top, so when the next agenda goes out people will know
if
their name is at or near the top of the list to scribe next.
Last Scribe Date Member Name Regrets pending
2009-07-?? Waschke, Marv
2008-06-08 Charest, Len
2009-01-08 Smith, Virginia First half of Mondays
(probably scribe-exempt)
2009-01-15 Gao, Sandy Second half of Mondays
(probably scribe-exempt)
Exempt Arwe, John
Exempt Henry Thompson
4.2. Scribe: follow the steps in the Scribe Quick Start Guide through
"Generate minutes"
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
Also issue the command "rrsagent, make log public" since we are a
public working group.
DO NOT use tools that significantly change the source html, like
Word, to do your editing. Those tools make compare tools to
sanity
check the scribe's edits unusable even though it renders fine
visually (even here, some like Word remove W3C style sheets so it
renders with subtle differences).
4.3. Scribe: (optional, but most often followed)
Send the original and updated minutes to the meeting chair as an
editorial check before sending to the full list. Assume the chair
will use a compare tool.
4.4. Scribe: send the minutes to the public mailing list
After the meeting, follow the conventions we have agreed on within
the wg to help people search the email archives more effectively,
namely:
[w3c sml][minutes] yyyy-mm-dd SML in subject of email
([minutes] agreed to,
rest chair's convention)
As with agendas, if minutes are updated include a [ver n] "tag" as
well.
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4.5. Chair
After meeting, update good standing list
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