- From: Wilson, Kirk D <Kirk.Wilson@ca.com>
- Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 09:56:13 -0400
- To: "John Arwe" <johnarwe@us.ibm.com>, <public-sml@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <F9576E62032243419E097FED5F0E75F3056F4FA0@USILMS12.ca.com>
I should be available to scribe.
Kirk Wilson, Ph.D.
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From: public-sml-request@w3.org [mailto:public-sml-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of John Arwe
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 9:54 AM
To: public-sml@w3.org
Subject: [w3c sml][agenda] 2008-10-07 SML
Kirk/Kumar, it appears you may be scribing this week.
Chair: when sending out an agenda, use following format
[w3c sml][agenda] yyyy-mm-dd SML in subject of email
([agenda] agreed to, rest chair's convention)
Chair: when sending out an updated agenda, use following format, "n" =
update number, 1st update == 2, etc.
[w3c sml][agenda][ver n] yyyy-mm-dd SML in subject of email
([agenda] [ver n] agreed to, rest chair's convention)
Scribe: read entire agenda, I restructured it so your "to do"s around
the scribe list are time-sequenced
i.e. less to remember
The phone number to use for the SML WG teleconference is documented on
the WG's administrative home page:
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#phone
<http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#phone>
Participants are invited to join IRC channel, as documented on the WG's
administrative home page:
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#irc
<http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#irc>
Teleconference Time and Length (two hours)
Pacific 11 AM - 1 PM
Mountain 12 PM - 2 PM
Central 1 PM - 3 PM
Eastern 2 PM - 4 PM
UK 7 PM - 9 PM
Paris 8 PM - 10 PM
Beijing 2 AM - 4 AM (sorry)
Publication moratorium for the rest of this year:
13 October, 12pm ET: Deadline for publication requests
before moratorium
16 October: Last publications before moratorium
17 - 26 October: No publications
27 October: Publications resume
18 December, 12pm ET: Deadline for publication requests
before moratorium
22 December: Last publications before moratorium
23 December - 1 January: No publications
2 January 2009: Publications resume
Proposed Agenda:
1. Roll call (present/regrets/absent)
2. Selection of Scribe based on list below
New scribes see:
- Scribe Quick Start Guide
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
<http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm>
- Scribe FAQ
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html
<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html>
- Instructions (steps "n-...") at the end of this agenda for
reviewing and sending out minutes
- PLEASE make any new Actions fully self-describing so they do not
require the minutes as context.
We found it awkward in the past to require going back to the
minutes for context.
Last Scribe Date Member Name Regrets pending
2008-05-22 Lynn, James Until further notice
2008-07-10 McCarthy, Julia Until further notice
2008-09-11 Wilson, Kirk
2008-09-18 Smith, Virginia 10/9
2008-09-25 Kumar, Pandit
2008-10-02 Gao, Sandy
Exempt Arwe, John 10/9
Exempt Dublish, Pratul
Exempt MSM 10/9 10/16
3. Approval of minutes from previous meeting(s):
- http://www.w3.org/XML/SML/#records
<http://www.w3.org/XML/SML/#records>
- 10/02
4. "from the CG" http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#schedule
<http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#schedule>
- By Oct 13 23:59 US Eastern time: Register for Oct 27-29 SML meeting
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML>
- CG dinner 10/29 (for chairs)
- SML wg dinner 10/27 (tentative)
5. Action items: goes faster if you update yours before the meeting...
http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/sml/
<http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/sml/>
6. Test case discussion.
Review updated test plan draft.
Email concrete lists (3) of test cases that need to be added,
deleted, changed, respectively
in advance of the meeting, so everyone has it when the call starts.
Other concrete proposals, e.g. test metadata and/or implementation
report syntax, happily accepted.
n-5. Review bugs with no keywords or target (none as of this writing!)
n-4. Review and attempt to reach consensus on other non-editorial bugs
targeted for the next draft.
Within each cluster, typically we look at them in this order
"decided" (after the 2-week grace period for responses ends)
"needsReview" (either we have consensus, it's no longer
needsReview, or the editors need to re-spin the proposed text)
"hasProposal"
"externalComments + reviewerNotSatisfied" - even if closed,
e.g. 5543, 5562
"externalComments + neither( reviewerNotSatisfied ,
reviewerSatisfied )" aka "reach out again?"
others
n-3. Scribe: update scribe list below in this meeting's minutes, for use
in the next meeting's agenda:
Update the list below and sort it (LRU), leaving people who will be
out for an extended period near the bottom
to keep the names of draftees for the current meeting near the top,
so when the next agenda goes out people
will know if their name is at or near the top of the list to scribe
next.
Last Scribe Date Member Name Regrets pending
2008-05-22 Lynn, James Until further notice
2008-07-10 McCarthy, Julia Until further notice
2008-09-11 Wilson, Kirk
2008-09-18 Smith, Virginia 10/9
2008-09-25 Kumar, Pandit
2008-10-02 Gao, Sandy
Exempt Arwe, John 10/9
Exempt Dublish, Pratul
Exempt MSM 10/9 10/16
n-2. Scribe: follow the steps in the Scribe Quick Start Guide through
"Generate minutes"
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
<http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm>
Also issue the command "rrsagent, make log public" since we are a
public workgroup.
DO NOT use tools that significantly change the source html, like
Word, to do your editing.
Those tools make compare tools to sanity check the scribe's edits
unusable even though it
renders fine visually (even here, some like Word remove W3C style
sheets so it renders
with subtle differences).
n-1. Scribe: (optional, but most often followed)
Send the original and updated minutes to the meeting chair as an
editorial check before
sending to the full list. Assume the chair will use a compare tool.
n. Scribe: send the minutes to the public mailing list
After the meeting, follow the conventions we have agreed on within
the wg to help
people search the email archives more effectively, namely:
[w3c sml][minutes] yyyy-mm-dd SML in subject of email ([minutes]
agreed to, rest chair's convention)
As with agendas, if minutes are updated include a [ver n] "tag" as
well.
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n+1. Chair
After meeting, update good standing list
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