[smart-cities] minutes - 24 March 2025

available at:
  https://www.w3.org/2025/03/24-smart-cities-minutes.html


also as text below.

Thanks a lot for taking notes, Michael McCool!

As confirmed during the call, we'll hold our monthly call on the
fourth Monday of the month to avoid the conflict with the Nordic
Smart Cities CG meeting.

BTW, I'm very sorry but apparently both I and Koster were a bit
confused during the call, and actually April 2025 has only four
Mondays (=7, 14, 21 and 28). So the next meeting will be *April 28*
instead of April 21.

I'll send an updated Calendar out to the group for to make sure.

Thanks,

Kazuyuki

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              Web-based Digital Twins for Smart Cities IG

24 March 2025

   [2]Agenda. [3]IRC log.

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      [3] https://www.w3.org/2025/03/24-smart-cities-irc


Attendees

   Present
          Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura, Linda_van_den_Brink,
          Michael_Koster, Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima

   Regrets
          -

   Chair
          Koster

   Scribe
          McCool, kaz

Contents

    1. [4]Logistics
    2. [5]Minutes
         1. [6]Feb-17
         2. [7]Feb-18
    3. [8]GitHub updates and resources
    4. [9]Summary of action items

Meeting minutes

  Logistics

   Koster: any cancellations we know of coming up?

   Kaz: was conflict with Nordic CG on third monday of the month,
   so propose shifting this meeting to fourth month
   ¡K would like to confirm

   McCool: I think you need to send an email for that, too

   Kaz: did, so should do it again

   McCool: next week DST will be done, finally

   Koster: note April will have five Mondays, also

   Kaz: should be April 21 :)

   [ Kaz: Very sorry but apparently both I and Koster were a bit
   confused, and actually April 2025 has only four Mondays (=7,
   14, 21 and 28). So the next meeting will be April 28 instead of
   April 21. ]

  Minutes

    Feb-17

   <McCool> [10]https://www.w3.org/2025/02/

   17-smart-cities-minutes.html

     [10] https://www.w3.org/2025/02/17-smart-cities-minutes.html


   Koster: (scans minutes, summarizes main points)

   Koster: discussed logistics, including repo, deliverables
   ¡K reviewed charter
   ¡K resolution to create a repo, that has now been done
   ¡K for requirements, user story format suggested

    Feb-18

   <kaz> [11]https://www.w3.org/2025/02/

   18-smart-cities-minutes.html

     [11] https://www.w3.org/2025/02/18-smart-cities-minutes.html


   Koster: this was more Asia-friendly timeslot
   ¡K however, we agreed going forward to combine meetings
   ¡K we have to generate a Team Report

   McCool: is there a deadline for the Team Report/

   Kaz: end of charter, July 2026, but good question; not tight,
   but we could define some milestones

   Koster: can put it in the agenda for now; may also want to
   consider a White Paper

   Kaz: I can create an initial schedule.md in the repo

   Koster: ok, sure

   ACTION: Kaz to create a schedule page on GitHub

   Koster: convergence of grid; also saw this topic show up in
   meeting with Nordic CG
   ¡K converges with smart building topic, energy use, etc.

   Koster: gap analysis would be useful

   Koster: one pager

   Koster: any update to the minutes? If not, I would like to
   propose we adopt and publish them.

   Koster: ... no objections heard.

   Koster: not sure where we put things like the gap document

   McCool: suggest chairs should review the minutes before the
   meeting and add such things to the agenda

  GitHub updates and resources

   McCool: resources page:
   ¡K [12]https://github.com/w3c/smart-cities/blob/main/

   resources.md

     [12] https://github.com/w3c/smart-cities/blob/main/resources.md


   Koster: list of relevant W3C and other groups

   Koster: need to consider interoperability, e.g. for
   geolocation, datasets, etc; also privacy principles

   McCool: need to better organize this; very long. Prioritize,
   group by categories?

   Kaz: right. this big list was copied from the IG Charter, and
   we should think about priority categories first, then which
   group to be included in which category next

   McCool: digital twin would be another category
   ¡K would require sensor data, etc.
   ¡K probably we need to clarify use cases as well

   McCool: suggest we focus on digital twins, generate use cases,
   use that to prioritize

   Kaz: may also be useful to look at external organizations first

   McCool: starting with digital twin concept, we need to thing
   about what kind of "modelling" we need
   ¡K e.g. geospatial data, relationships and entities (aka LD),
   time series and numerical data (e.g. IoT sensor data)
   ¡K and what "web" is used for e.g. visualization (webGPU, vector
   graphics, etc)

   Kaz: right. reminded me of the great session about SVG Map for
   evacuation purposes during the AC2024 in Hiroshima.

   Koster: issues like IoT interfaces, ontologies, etc.

   McCool: I think we need a short list of high-level categories,
   maybe 5 or so, and organize things under that

   Koster: what about standards?

   McCool: SDOs work on lots of things, we should cite specific
   standards, not orgs...

   Kaz: could create another md file for technology categories
   ¡K could think about which SDO is working on which categories

   McCool: makes sense

   Koster: good place to start

   <kaz> [13]technology-categories.md

     [13] https://github.com/w3c/smart-cities/blob/main/technology-categories.md


   Koster: as mm said, we need to pick a small number of "focus
   areas"

   McCool: suggest we brainstorm right now in the PR, then people
   can comment offline

   McCool: suggest create a PR so we can comment and propose
   updates

   [14]PR 1 - Update technology-categories.md

     [14] https://github.com/w3c/smart-cities/pull/1


   Kaz: let's continue the discussion on GitHub using the PR 1
   above
   ¡K then we can talk about that during the next call

   [adjourned]

Summary of action items

    1. [15]Kaz to create a schedule page on GitHub


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