Minutes of Silver meeting of 28 May 2019

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https://www.w3.org/2019/05/28-silver-minutes.html


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                  Silver Community Group Teleconference

28 May 2019

Attendees

    Present
           AngelaAccessForAll, Chuck, Cyborg, Jan, Jennifer,
           JohnRochford_, KimD, NicolasSteenhout, Rochford,
           dboudreau, jeanne

    Regrets
           BruceBailey, ChrisL, Shri

    Chair
           jeanne, Shawn

    Scribe
           Cyborg, jeanne

Contents

      * [2]Topics
          1. [3]AG WG Presentation
          2. [4]process for writing content
      * [5]Summary of Action Items
      * [6]Summary of Resolutions
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    <Lauriat> trackbot, start meeting

    <trackbot> Meeting: Silver Community Group Teleconference

    <trackbot> Date: 28 May 2019

AG WG Presentation

    <jeanne>
    [7]https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/wiki/WCAG_to_Si
    lver_Migration_Map

       [7] https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/wiki/WCAG_to_Silver_Migration_Map

    <jeanne>
    [8]https://drive.google.com/open?id=1GcCWKuWFNvxPacEmM0xrFTCtBV
    YMtM4LvkJWEMZl9fQ

       [8] https://drive.google.com/open?id=1GcCWKuWFNvxPacEmM0xrFTCtBVYMtM4LvkJWEMZl9fQ

    <Cyborg> is someone scribing?

    <Cyborg> i don't know any of the scribing commands...

    <Cyborg> John Foliot - 1.3.1 and 1.3.5 rewrite not meeting
    non-sighted user needs?

    <Cyborg> Shawn: we will work on that

    <Cyborg> Jeanne: we are making notes of issues as we go

    <jeanne> scribe: Cyborg

    <jeanne> scribe: jeanne

    <Jan>
    [9]https://docs.google.com/document/d/152RdsWpzq0QqdiSeW2dk0-RT
    p6QZkbcOZevbfa0tQMo/edit?usp=sharing

       [9] https://docs.google.com/document/d/152RdsWpzq0QqdiSeW2dk0-RTp6QZkbcOZevbfa0tQMo/edit?usp=sharing

    Cyborg: [recap step 1 from AccessU template]
    ... As Chuck and I worked on Color Contrast, we realized that
    there was additional refinement for Step 2
    ... [reviewing step 2 and 3]
    ... [reviewing step 4 - testing the tests]

    Chuck: We want people to think about whether or not they are
    introducing new barriers by the Method.
    ... example of a person with a problem with color contrast.

    JF: But we have to think about scale, and whether a one in 5
    million disability derail advice that benefits many millions of
    people.

    Chuck: This is more about how to value it.

    Cyborg: It's important to identify tests that could potentially
    catch side effects of Methods could happen and start measuring
    them.

    JF: That's an important point, but what do we do with conflict
    resolution?
    ... we have research that shows that for some users increasing
    the contrast more readable, while others reducing the contrast
    solves "dancing letter" problems.

    Cyborg: It's an important issue that we don't have a solution
    to yet.

    JF: I appreciate that we are mapping out the map and I don't
    want to lose the question.

    Chuck: This isn't about solving every problem, it's more about
    how to help us solve "writer's block" and help us write good
    content.
    ... how do we update old content, and add good new content.

    Cyborg: Review of Step 5: Quality Control - did the process
    fill in the plain language prototype?
    ... With a goal of turning this into a form and allow us to
    review and evaluate the proposal.

    Jeanne: Who would like to have their draft of migration content
    reviewed on Friday?
    ... Audio Description and Headings are the furthest along

    Cyborg: Headings needs a lot more work to bring it into line
    with this process.
    ... Is Step 2 correct?

    Chuck: It's how to get at the quality

    JF: Any test has to be testing the material created by the
    author
    ... I think about testing the quality of alt text. We only have
    tests for the mechanical
    ... writing tests for the quality is a string of true false
    tests. It's a path test.

    SHawn: I think we will have to figure out the detail test for
    quality of alt text

    Jeanne: Jan and I wrote a rubric test for a Method in the
    Headings that I want you to look at that gives another approach
    to a quality test.

    [10]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IVmg0MVHeJipg2ovENQtIkC
    zbq2izWeGKWaIqYLf0M4/edit#h.70i9zxlz0044 - Step 2, (New) Rubric
    for measuring quality headings

      [10] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IVmg0MVHeJipg2ovENQtIkCzbq2izWeGKWaIqYLf0M4/edit#h.70i9zxlz0044

process for writing content

    jeanne: my scribe failure. All the proceeding content is on the
    process.

    trackbot, end meeting

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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