- From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
- Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2019 04:55:43 -0500
- To: Bruce Bailey <Bailey@access-board.gov>
- Cc: Silver TF <public-silver@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAAdDpDYDoUKqSO5NO2EoCZyWaiqncrWH=PbUy2WgcuePSaaOdQ@mail.gmail.com>
Agreed. Cheers, David MacDonald *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* Tel: 613-806-9005 LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> twitter.com/davidmacd GitHub <https://github.com/DavidMacDonald> www.Can-Adapt.com <http://www.can-adapt.com/> * Adapting the web to all users* * Including those with disabilities* If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 10:06 AM Bruce Bailey <Bailey@access-board.gov> wrote: > Definitely not hard and fast rules for the level assignments, but I was > surprised how distinct the patterns are after-the-fact with the > benefit-of-hindsight. > > The did-it-require-AT question was not something I thought to capture in > my analysis. > > The impacting the look and feel of the website is very much reflected in > that table, under the column heading “invisible”. > > Of course, the SC that are invisible are also going to be things that tend > to require AT to get the benefits. > > > > *From:* David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 6:08 AM > *To:* Bruce Bailey <Bailey@Access-Board.gov> > *Cc:* Silver TF <public-silver@w3.org> > *Subject:* Re: SC Level assignment in WCAG 2.0 > > > > Two additional factors that went into the decision of what level to choose > were: > > > > - Did it require AT? The Level A SCs generally didn't require a user to > purchase Assistive Technology (i.e. magnification) > > - Did it impact the look or feel of the website, and cause redesign? Level > A generally doesn't require a change to the look or feel of the site. > > > > We've always been careful not to create hard and fast rules about when > something was Level A or AA and have stuck with "The Success Criteria were > assigned to one of the three levels of conformance by the working group > after taking into consideration a wide range of interacting issues." > > > > Cheers, > David MacDonald > > > > *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* > > Tel: 613-806-9005 > > LinkedIn > > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fdavidmacdonald100&data=02%7C01%7CBailey%40access-board.gov%7C8ac19d7d3ea145a31b3f08d69d6d12d5%7Cfc6093f5e55e4f93b2cf26d0822201c9%7C0%7C0%7C636869489154426867&sdata=X%2BUNQn2Q0YVU9DZdsoVAsbyapbIj28ockmK1zizuNsQ%3D&reserved=0> > > twitter.com/davidmacd > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fdavidmacd&data=02%7C01%7CBailey%40access-board.gov%7C8ac19d7d3ea145a31b3f08d69d6d12d5%7Cfc6093f5e55e4f93b2cf26d0822201c9%7C0%7C0%7C636869489154426867&sdata=89bzS4nIs8L%2BA%2FD5rsfggYYkA9TPvujdPLaIah6zv1I%3D&reserved=0> > > GitHub > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FDavidMacDonald&data=02%7C01%7CBailey%40access-board.gov%7C8ac19d7d3ea145a31b3f08d69d6d12d5%7Cfc6093f5e55e4f93b2cf26d0822201c9%7C0%7C0%7C636869489154436871&sdata=AVk9joJoAnbRywOSHBGp1O7ZoZSZPiiLGUjF1exryTE%3D&reserved=0> > > www.Can-Adapt.com > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.can-adapt.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7CBailey%40access-board.gov%7C8ac19d7d3ea145a31b3f08d69d6d12d5%7Cfc6093f5e55e4f93b2cf26d0822201c9%7C0%7C0%7C636869489154446880&sdata=NnT5LYw8Xo6rLYj10rmGy%2BavpBvqohcroHeeDzyWDYA%3D&reserved=0> > > > > * Adapting the web to all users* > > * Including those with disabilities* > > > > If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidmacd.com%2Fdisclaimer.html&data=02%7C01%7CBailey%40access-board.gov%7C8ac19d7d3ea145a31b3f08d69d6d12d5%7Cfc6093f5e55e4f93b2cf26d0822201c9%7C0%7C0%7C636869489154446880&sdata=6koLKJfpjYyOJ9QKmvQxipSopCF6qk56gPwJaWEsShY%3D&reserved=0> > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 10:59 AM Bruce Bailey <Bailey@access-board.gov> > wrote: > > On the call today it came up that, in the context of litigation, it was > not clear enough to lawyers how success criteria were assigned to the > different levels. > > The most authoritative explanation is from Understanding Level of > Conformance: > http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/conformance.html#uc-levels-head > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2FUNDERSTANDING-WCAG20%2Fconformance.html%23uc-levels-head&data=02%7C01%7CBailey%40access-board.gov%7C8ac19d7d3ea145a31b3f08d69d6d12d5%7Cfc6093f5e55e4f93b2cf26d0822201c9%7C0%7C0%7C636869489154456892&sdata=IbsNa9PyMbsJYX0NkG0p1lGPaQXxHd%2FsZlbIIms60NA%3D&reserved=0> > > See the five bullet list following these two sentences: > The Success Criteria were assigned to one of the three levels of > conformance by the working group after taking into consideration a wide > range of interacting issues. Some of the common factors evaluated when > setting the level included... > > The assignment of levels was the subject of much discussion as the Working > Group developed 2.1. That consensus was posted in the wiki, please see: > > http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/WCAG_2.1_Success_Criteria#Initial_Suggestion_for_Priority_Level > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2FGL%2Fwiki%2FWCAG_2.1_Success_Criteria%23Initial_Suggestion_for_Priority_Level&data=02%7C01%7CBailey%40access-board.gov%7C8ac19d7d3ea145a31b3f08d69d6d12d5%7Cfc6093f5e55e4f93b2cf26d0822201c9%7C0%7C0%7C636869489154466896&sdata=ecasUu8tZ6yb3s6SN6r9RDeOXYtfqJZu379ukd4Kw%2Bw%3D&reserved=0> > > As part of that effort, I did an analysis (that has *not* been fully > vetted by the working group) of the 2.0 against the five bullet points > mentioned above. See the discussion tab of that page: > http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Talk:WCAG_2.1_Success_Criteria > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2FGL%2Fwiki%2FTalk%3AWCAG_2.1_Success_Criteria&data=02%7C01%7CBailey%40access-board.gov%7C8ac19d7d3ea145a31b3f08d69d6d12d5%7Cfc6093f5e55e4f93b2cf26d0822201c9%7C0%7C0%7C636869489154466896&sdata=kucNOUa2vjYurx4jE9duK1by2kpzP1v9hruZSxVOIIY%3D&reserved=0> > > What I found is that: > WCAG 2.0 Level A SC (generally) are two-out-of-three for easy, essential, > or invisible -- 21 of 25 Level A SC are characterized this way. > WCAG 2.0 Level AAA SC (generally) are not possible for all content -- 21 > of 24 Level AAA SC are characterized this way. > That leaves AA SC (generally) as the remainder. The more detailed tally > is at the bottom of that wiki page: > http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/WCAG_2.1_Success_Criteria#Observations > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2FGL%2Fwiki%2FWCAG_2.1_Success_Criteria%23Observations&data=02%7C01%7CBailey%40access-board.gov%7C8ac19d7d3ea145a31b3f08d69d6d12d5%7Cfc6093f5e55e4f93b2cf26d0822201c9%7C0%7C0%7C636869489154476905&sdata=MT30KoG4TUQBZA%2F85xsWqhpS6gqygdc232t2I630Uzo%3D&reserved=0> > > > > > > > >
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