Minutes of Silver meeting 8 February 2019

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                 Silver Community Group Teleconference

08 Feb 2019

Attendees

   Present
          jeanne, Lauriat, AngelaAccessForAll, bruce_bailey,
          shari, KimD, Charles, johnkirkwood

   Regrets

   Chair
          Shawn, jeanne

   Scribe
          Lauriat

Contents

     * [2]Topics
     * [3]Summary of Action Items
     * [4]Summary of Resolutions
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   trackbot, start meeting

   <trackbot> Meeting: Silver Community Group Teleconference

   <trackbot> Date: 08 February 2019

   Requirements draft:
   [5]https://w3c.github.io/silver/requirements/index.html

      [5] https://w3c.github.io/silver/requirements/index.html

   "Flexibility: As the web continues to diversify, a conformance
   structure is needed that can be customized for different uses
   and technologies. A static website for a pizza shop has
   different accessibility conformance needs than a social media
   site being updated thousands of times per second."

   Under maintenance "Flexibility: A flexible structure enables
   greater scaling of new and expiry of outdated guidelines. A
   flexible process enables guidelines to keep pace with
   technology. Flexible participation – particularly of people
   with disabilities – empowers a community and enables more
   inclusive insights."

   <Zakim> bruce_bailey, you wanted to say I already got lost

   "A flexible structure enables greater scaling of new and expiry
   of outdated guidelines." proposing rewording that to methods of
   meeting guidelines, rather than guidelines themselves expiring
   often.

   "A flexible structure enables greater scaling of new - and
   expiry of outdated - methods to meet guidelines."

   Clearer rewording from bruce_bailey: "A flexible structure
   enables greater scaling of new methods to meet guidelines. It
   also allows for the expiration of outdated methods to meet
   guidelines."

   <bruce_bailey> +1

   +1

   "A flexible process enables guidelines to keep pace with
   technology."

   "A flexible process of updating guidelines enables the overall
   guidance to keep pace with technology."

   <bruce_bailey> A flexible process of updating methods enables
   the overall guidance to keep pace with technology.

   +1

   "Flexible participation – particularly of people with
   disabilities – empowers a community and enables more inclusive
   insights."

   "Scaling: Silver can consider multiple referring contexts,
   multiple use cases, and iteration and addendums over time when
   designing a system and taxonomy that is as future friendly as
   it is user-centric."

   <Cyborg> Silver applies to...

   "Scaling: Silver applies to multiple referring contexts,
   multiple use cases, and iteration and addendums over time when
   designing a system and taxonomy that is as future friendly as
   it is user-centric."

   <Cyborg> Silver applies to multiple contexts, multiple use
   cases, is iterative, future-friendly and user-centric

   <Cyborg> yes two lists in a single list. can be split.

   Scaling: Silver should apply to multiple contexts and multiple
   use cases. Silver should be iterative, future-friendly, and
   user-centric.

   <Cyborg> is or must?

   <Cyborg> must?

   <Jan> will be?

   <bruce_bailey> designed to be?

   <Cyborg> designed to be sounds goo

   <Cyborg> good

   <Cyborg> intends to be

   <bruce_bailey> +1 to intends to be

   <Jan> +1 intends to be

   +1

   Scaling: Silver intends to apply to multiple contexts and
   multiple use cases. Silver intends to be iterative,
   future-friendly, and user-centric.

   <bruce_bailey> +1

   <Cyborg> i always find double tos a bit awkward.

   <Cyborg> intends to apply to...

   <Cyborg> might want to massage that a bit...

   <Cyborg> We expect Silver to apply to multiple contexts and use
   cases. Silver intends to be iterative, future-friendly and
   user-centric.

   <Cyborg> We intend Silver to apply to...

   <Cyborg> if you put the intend before Silver in the first
   sentence it sounds better

   <bruce_bailey> +1

   Governance: Accessibility guidance and all supporting
   documentation should be as forward looking and future friendly
   as possible – anticipating common scenarios like new
   technology. If possible, they should also consider the
   introduction of new modalities like surface reaction and
   ultrahaptics. Utilize tools that allow interested parties to
   predict when issues important to them are being discussed.
   Maintain a backlog that reflects issues along with thei[CUT]

   <Cyborg> what about IoT?

   <Cyborg> isn't it also kind of a culture-shift away from WCAG
   to DAG?

   <Cyborg> if so, is that bluntly stated anywhere?

   <bruce_bailey> +1 to removing opening sentence (or two)

   <Cyborg> governance statement

   Evolving Technology: As content technology evolves, it must be
   re-evaluated against assistive technology for compatibility.
   Likewise, as assistive technology evolves or emerges, it must
   be evaluated against the backward compatibility of various
   content technology. Silver needs a flexible design that will
   allow for updates as new technologies emerge, assistive
   technologies improve, and changing technologies produce new
   barriers for people with disabilities.

   <Zakim> bruce_bailey, you wanted to suggest governance
   paragraph comes after evolving technology

   As content technology evolves, it must be re-evaluated against
   assistive technology for compatibility. Likewise, as assistive
   technology evolves or emerges, it must be evaluated against the
   backward compatibility of various content technology.

   Accessibility guidance and all supporting documentation should
   be as forward looking and future friendly as possible –
   anticipating common scenarios like new technology. If possible,
   they should also consider the introduction of new modalities
   like surface reaction and ultrahaptics.

   <Zakim> bruce_bailey, you wanted to ask if "future friendly" in
   two paragraphs?

   <Cyborg> new version?

   Accessibility guidance and all supporting documentation should
   anticipate common scenarios like new technology and the
   introduction of new modalities.

   <bruce_bailey> +1

   <Jan> +1

   <Cyborg> can we please see the new one? i'm confused

   Silver needs a flexible design that will allow for updates as
   new technologies emerge, assistive technologies improve, and
   changing technologies produce new barriers for people with
   disabilities. Accessibility guidance and all supporting
   documentation should anticipate common scenarios like new
   technology and the introduction of new modalities. As content
   technology evolves, it must be re-evaluated against assistive
   technology for compatibility.

   Likewise, as assistive technology evolves or emerges, it must
   be evaluated against the backward compatibility of various
   content technology.

   <Charles> dropping off

   <Cyborg> Silver needs a flexible design that can be updated as
   new technologies emerge, assistive technologies improve, and
   changing technologies produce new barriers for people with
   disabilities.

   +1

   Accessibility guidance and all supporting documentation should
   anticipate common scenarios like new technology and the
   introduction of new modalities like surface reaction and
   ultrahaptics.

   <AngelaAccessForAll> sorry, I have to drop

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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