- From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
- Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2018 07:14:02 -0500
- To: Shawn Lauriat <lauriat@google.com>
- Cc: Jeanne Spellman <jspellman@spellmanconsulting.com>, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>, Silver Task Force <public-silver@w3.org>, John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>
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I think it may depend on where the "measurability" lives. How is conformance measured? At the guideline level or the method level? The reason we removed technology specific requirements from the success criteria in WCAG 2 was because it took a long time to create a standard and technology changes quickly. However if the new model for accessibility standards is that they are updated every 18 months to 2 years then that consideration is diminished and may give us the flexibility to put the testability/measurability at the method (technology) level. I would say the single most complicating factor in WCAG was our requirement to separate specific technology from the success criteria and create an abstract layer of technology agnostic success criterion for testing criteria from which on non-normative technology specific techniques were attached. Cheers, David MacDonald *Can**Adapt* *Solutions Inc.* Tel: 613-806-9005 LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmacdonald100> twitter.com/davidmacd GitHub <https://github.com/DavidMacDonald> www.Can-Adapt.com <http://www.can-adapt.com/> * Adapting the web to all users* * Including those with disabilities* If you are not the intended recipient, please review our privacy policy <http://www.davidmacd.com/disclaimer.html> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 3:47 PM Shawn Lauriat <lauriat@google.com> wrote: > Indeed, thank you, Laura! > > In an effort to not drop the conversation we started during today's call > (explicitly +John, since you and I in particular had *just* got into > discussing potential scoping for this when I ran out of time in my > conference room): > > Thinking that the overall guidance, generalized well in Laura's prototype, > could expand to cover other aspects of text/content/etc. reflow and > adaptability beyond just 1.4.12 Text Spacing > <https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#text-spacing>, like: > > - 1.3.4 Orientation <https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#orientation> > - 1.4.4 Resize text <https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#resize-text> > - 1.4.8 Visual Presentation > <https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#visual-presentation> (at least bits of > it) > - 1.4.10 Reflow <https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#reflow> > > The overall interaction and intentions for these seem to me to all stem > from the same principle of allowing users to customize or otherwise have > flexibility in the rendering of the given content and/or user interface. > Many of these SCs I think would then (as Laura, you had in your draft) turn > into methods for a given technology, while others may turn into tests on > particular methods, where the methods would come from the Techniques that > we have today. > > Resulting in a structure something like: > > - Guidance: [something like "Text spacing can be overidden." that > covers other aspects of adaptive rendering beyond just text spacing] > - Methods (just picking HTML page and PDF documents as two > technologies to try illustrating how I think this could work): > - [ HTML+CSS Techniques for each current SC, probably broken up in > different ways, since many include several text attributes for one SC] > - Tests: > - [How to alter the CSS rules that would affect each > technique, and analyze the resulting rendering] > - [ PDF Techniques for each current SC, probably broken up in > different ways, since many include several text attributes for one SC] > - Tests: > - [How to alter the PDF rendering rules in a viewer that > would affect each technique, and analyze the resulting rendering] > > Kind of shorthand, but what do you think about that? Too granular? I'd > want to really expand this out into all of the applicable rules we'd want > to include to get a better sense of the overall threshold of > what-makes-a-method, since it still feels too low level to me. For spoken > feedback, for a very different sort of guidance context, you'd have a whole > other set of attributes (voice, rate, pitch, volume, intonation, etc.). > > -Shawn > > On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 1:28 PM Jeanne Spellman < > jspellman@spellmanconsulting.com> wrote: > >> Thank you Laura! I appreciate the time you took on writing it. >> >> We will talk about it in our meeting today. Any other feedback for us >> on how easy or hard it was to transition to the Silver version? Things >> you liked or didn't like? Thoughts? Cautions? >> >> >> On 11/16/2018 12:59 PM, Laura Carlson wrote: >> > Hi Jeanne and all, >> > >> > Thank you for the invitation. >> > >> > Here is a first attempt for 1.4.12 Text Spacing. >> > >> http://www.d.umn.edu/~lcarlson/wcagwg/silver/prototypes/silver-spacing-draft.html >> > >> > Thoughts? >> > >> > Kindest Regards, >> > Laura >> > >> > On 11/15/18, Jeanne Spellman <jspellman@spellmanconsulting.com> wrote: >> >> Many of you on this list don't have the time to participate in Silver >> >> regularly, but may have an hour to contribute here-and-there. This >> >> invitation is for you. >> >> >> >> TL;DR (Summary) >> >> >> >> Silver team wants help testing and improving two prototypes before we >> >> send them out to the wider world for comments and testing. It involves >> >> sketching out new Guidelines or translating existing WCAG guidance >> >> following the templates and examples we provide. Pick one prototype to >> >> test, whichever appeals to you. We want to know the problems you >> >> encounter, suggestions for improvement, or compliments in trying to >> >> follow the templates. We aren't writing content for Silver yet, so >> >> don't worry about the writing. It's the process of writing that we >> want >> >> to test. It should take about an hour, although some people may choose >> >> to take on harder challenges (1.3.1, I'm looking at you). >> >> >> >> Email your work to public-silver@w3.org, or if you wish to send it >> >> privately, you can email it to jspellman@paciellogroup.com and >> >> lauriat@google.com. All contributions will be public, but we can >> remove >> >> your name if you wish. >> >> >> >> == Introducing the Prototypes == >> >> >> >> The Silver Design Sprint resulted in recommendations for the design of >> >> Silver. Silver Community Group has created two prototypes that are >> >> ready for wider testing. Think of them as alpha stage prototypes where >> >> we are looking for input on the basics of the prototypes. These are >> not >> >> ready for broad input, so please don't share them on social media yet. >> >> We do have a plan for receiving broad input, but one of the prototypes >> >> can't handle the bandwidth of many testers yet. >> >> >> >> We are currently testing: >> >> >> >> * the proposed structure of Silver (Information Architecture) >> prototype >> >> * the use of a style guide to write Silver in plain language >> >> >> >> Note: Any content that is proposed in this test is not intended to go >> >> into Silver. We are not writing content yet. >> >> Note: We have additional prototypes under development that are not yet >> >> ready for review, most notably, the Conformance prototype. >> >> >> >> Pick one: >> >> >> >> * You can use an existing WCAG success criterion or combination of >> >> related success criteria for either the Information Architecture >> or >> >> Plain Language test. We expect most people to choose this. >> >> * Brave souls could stress test the Information Architecture by >> >> tackling breaking up WCAG 1.3.1 or including pointer events in >> >> keyboard navigation. :) >> >> * You could sketch out tests, Methods and Guideline for a user need >> >> that is not included in WCAG to test the Information Architecture >> >> prototype. >> >> * You could sketch out Methods for a user agent (browser or >> assistive >> >> technology) or authoring tool to test the Information Architecture >> >> * If you are expert or passionate about plain language, use our >> Style >> >> Guide to translate existing WCAG guidance in plain language. >> >> >> >> Choose whichever prototype appeals to you. Please copy the template >> for >> >> the prototype and fill it out using whatever text editing tool (Word, >> >> HTML, Github PR, Google Doc, email) -- whatever works for you. Email it >> >> to public-silver@w3.org. If you wish to send it privately, you can >> >> email it to jspellman@paciellogroup.com and lauriat@google.com. All >> >> contributions will be public, but we can remove your name if you wish. >> >> Details on each of the prototypes are after this paragraph. >> >> >> >> == Information Architecture == >> >> We hope this new structure will provide the ability to better include >> >> user needs that could not be included in WCAG 2.1, like the proposals >> >> from the Cognitive Accessibility Task Force and the Low Vision >> >> Accessibility Task Force. We also want to include guidance that goes >> >> beyond traditional Web Content, such as guidance for mobile apps, >> >> emerging technologies, authoring tools and environments, browsers and >> >> user agents, and assistive technology. Keep this in mind as you are >> >> testing and let us know your feedback. >> >> >> >> We are proposing flattening the WCAG 2.x architecture from Principles, >> >> Guidelines, Success Criteria, and Techniques to simply Guidelines and >> >> Methods. Most WCAG 2.x success criteria will become Guidelines. The >> >> technology-specific success criteria (like most of Robust) will become >> >> Methods. Techniques will all be Methods. Some success criteria can be >> >> merged -- for example, the success criteria that are essentially the >> >> same advice, but with different measurement levels for A, AA, and AAA, >> >> or Language of Parts and Language of Page could potentially be merged. >> >> They would have different Methods for achieving the result, but the >> >> Guideline could be to identify the language (English, French, Japanese, >> >> Chinese, ...) being used. >> >> >> >> We don't want you to focus on the details of the writing, we are more >> >> interested in you sketching out an accessibility guideline to test the >> >> structure of Silver guidance. The working Information Architecture >> >> prototype deliberately has placeholder language, because we want you to >> >> look at the structure, not the content. We would like you to try >> writing >> >> Tests, Methods, and Guideline for an existing WCAG success criteria, or >> >> for a new idea for a guideline. We created an example and a template >> >> that you can use to write new Methods and Guidelines for Silver. >> Please >> >> note that not everything that people write for this test will >> >> necessarily go into Silver. We are testing the structure, we are not >> >> writing new content for Silver. You can sketch out your ideas. You >> >> will see in the example that we sketched out Methods for technology >> that >> >> we were not familiar with, just to test whether the Silver Information >> >> Architecture could work. >> >> >> >> Our process in creating the example was to sketch out the tests, then >> >> derive the Methods from the tests. After sketching out all the Methods >> >> we could think of (including one that we wished was supported), then we >> >> wrote the Guideline. When you write the tests first, you better define >> >> the edge cases. That should make the Guideline more accurate and >> easier >> >> to test. You can link to existing WCAG techniques if you want to reuse >> >> their tests. >> >> >> >> We want examples of tests that are not just the true/false success >> >> criteria of WCAG, but are tests that are rubrics, scales, task-based >> >> assessment, distance from mean, or others. We know there are >> >> researchers who have worked on a variety of tests for accessibility >> that >> >> go beyond true/false statement, but we need people to actually write >> >> some examples. >> >> >> >> Links: >> >> >> >> * Working Information Architecture Prototype >> >> >> >> <https://mikecrabb.github.io/silver_taggingSystemDemo/guidelines.html> >> >> (limited bandwidth, the response time may be long). >> >> * Template for Information Architecture >> >> >> >> < >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRgf85Z_NJ7HmF-UX992wLx0F-sCQyipL6USL9HTmvBOWtH53C78SVNjKI8kLTxl5UuYJbc7ImiGsB_/pub >> > >> >> Copy it into your text editor of choice, fill it out and send it >> to >> >> public-silver@w3.org >> >> * Example for Information Architecture >> >> >> >> < >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQTeTyH3FQZ-qkt-UsyoePHV_joN_nDJy5CsMvit4GjKnbw9zsZljvGG-kU2ZTRP6bUEVJmdIWGc_PX/pub >> > >> >> - It is titled "Methods Prototype for Language of Page". It uses >> >> the WCAG 2.1 success criteria of 3.1.1 Language of Page. Note >> that >> >> the Guideline was changed to reflect a broader scope than a web >> "page". >> >> >> >> >> >> == Plain Language == >> >> The Plain Language prototype examines how we can include supporting >> >> information that is helpful and easy to understand. Think of it as the >> >> WCAG Understanding document, except this will be included in the main >> >> version of Silver. It will eventually fit into the Information >> >> Architecture prototype as the "Long Description". We have put the >> >> Guideline information in a tab format so it is easier to find the >> >> information. Those who are interested in the usability of Silver >> should >> >> try to write guidance following the Style Guide. We have a template >> for >> >> you to copy and use. We are really testing the Style Guide, but we >> are >> >> also interested in your feedback about the organization of the >> >> information including the labels of the tabs. The template only covers >> >> the first tab. If you would like to include writing for the other >> tabs, >> >> that would be very welcome, but we are only asking for the Get Started >> tab. >> >> >> >> Links: >> >> >> >> * Working Plain Language Prototype >> >> <https://w3c.github.io/silver/prototypes/PlainLanguage2/> >> Select >> >> the Section Headings link to see an example sketched out. >> >> * Template for Plain Language >> >> >> >> < >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQVTxM2r00NtcYhZJY6lN6xh_fuM9L2jnPZQJ2c59KiyA_-BcC2HkhKf0IxDod4qBunvPkXbhkCHuKq/pub >> > >> >> Copy it into your text editor of choice, fill it out and send it >> to >> >> public-silver@w3.org >> >> * Example of Plain Language prototype >> >> >> >> < >> https://w3c.github.io/silver/prototypes/PlainLanguage2/SectionHeading.html >> > >> >> - Sections Headings >> >> * Style Guide for Plain Language >> >> >> >> < >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTNEIRmC8KjpYMk4APRTZIVl3AJj7XY7XiG0bDiQM4oLJueOFrpJUjbNY7fj9R41KLwjtBi8irIWclB/pub >> > >> >> We want your comments and suggestions on the Style Guide >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>
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