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Re: Agenda for Silver meeting of 22 May 2017

From: Michael Crabb (Staff) <m.z.crabb@dundee.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 18:58:19 +0000
To: "Hall, Charles (DET-MRM)" <Charles.Hall@mrm-mccann.com>, Shawn Lauriat <lauriat@google.com>, Silver TF <public-silver@w3.org>
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Hi Charles (and all),

A version of the GitHub repo with all of Michellanne’s suggestions in the PR can be viewed through this link: https://github.com/w3c/silver/tree/d798cc904e5e924e9545d885a172056bae99696a or directly downloaded through this link: https://github.com/w3c/silver/archive/d798cc904e5e924e9545d885a172056bae99696a.zip . All of her suggestions are in the prototypes folder.

I agree with you disagreeing with the suggestion of picking a framework. It would be amazing to find one that worked for us and was accessible, but I think that the chances of that are very slim. Also, by using one it implies that it may be ‘endorsed’ by Silver as the goto accessibility framework, which is something that we should avoid. However, it would be fairly straight forward for us to come up with a basic semi-framework of our own that had basic stylings etc. in place but I think that the first step has to be getting the information architecture and some content in place – once we have done that then we can start thinking about styling in a bit more detail.

Also, apologies from me for tomorrow – we have some Primary School children (10 and 11 years old!) coming into university all day to take part in a games coding competition!

Best Regards


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From: "Hall, Charles (DET-MRM)" <Charles.Hall@mrm-mccann.com>
Date: Monday, 21 May 2018 at 17:28
To: Shawn Lauriat <lauriat@google.com>, Silver TF <public-silver@w3.org>
Subject: Re: Agenda for Silver meeting of 22 May 2017
Resent-From: <public-silver@w3.org>
Resent-Date: Monday, 21 May 2018 at 17:26

Regrets. I am unable to attend tomorrow.
Additionally, I have no update for the Information Architecture prototype other than a question and a concern.

Michellanne Li contributed some basic default styles in a GitHub PR, but I do not know how to see this applied to anything:

How can we visualize this?

There is a suggestion in the proposed README update that I differ with:

“+*  Moving forward, I recommend that we select a prototyping framework - such as Pattern Lab or Foundation - based on whichever CMS platform we are using.”

For efficiencies in building a prototype, there are some select advantages in using a framework. However, as most are not accessible (despite claims), I want to distance the work of Silver from such frameworks as much as possible. My recommendation is pure HTML and CSS with meticulous scrutiny of any defaults / unsets / resets to prevent accidently removing accessible features.


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From: Shawn Lauriat <lauriat@google.com>
Date: Monday, May 21, 2018 at 10:29 AM
To: Silver Task Force <public-silver@w3.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Agenda for Silver meeting of 22 May 2017
Resent-From: Silver Task Force <public-silver@w3.org>
Resent-Date: Monday, May 21, 2018 at 10:27 AM

agenda+ Requirements draft
agenda+ Project management plans: project definitions & scoping
agenda+ Information architecture prototype


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