Re: Straw-poll: Issue 410 / Allowing list syntax

I also prefer option 1, but with the proposed restriction to the four base/single kinds. 

Yousouf 

> De: "David Habgood" <david@kurrawong.ai>
> À: "Robert David" <9427084@gmail.com>
> Cc: "Holger Knublauch" <holger@topquadrant.com>, "Public Shacl W3C"
> <public-shacl@w3.org>
> Envoyé: Lundi 14 Juillet 2025 13:38:09
> Objet: Re: Straw-poll: Issue 410 / Allowing list syntax

>> I prefer option 1 with the proposed restriction to the 4 base/single kinds.
> Likewise. Although lists can be painful to work with I do find it cleaner and
> already need to handle them elsewhere.

> David Habgood

> Knowledge Graph Senior Developer

> KurrawongAI 					[ mailto:david@kurrawong.ai | david@kurrawong.ai ]
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> On Monday, 14 July 2025 at 19:29, Robert David <9427084@gmail.com> wrote:

>> I prefer option 1 with the proposed restriction to the 4 base/single kinds.

>> Am Sa., 12. Juli 2025 um 10:49 Uhr schrieb Holger Knublauch < [
>> mailto:holger@topquadrant.com | holger@topquadrant.com ] >:

>>> > On 11 Jul 2025, at 5:54 pm, Eliana Papoutsoglou <Eliana@y.digital> wrote:

>>> > Hi all,

>>>> As discussed in our last meeting, this is a straw poll to help us assess the
>>>> group's position on PR #410: "feat: #407 add support for sh:TripleTerm to
>>> > sh:nodeKind and allow lists."
>>>> [ https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/pull/410 |
>>> > https://github.com/w3c/data-shapes/pull/410 ]

>>> > The main point of contention is whether lists should be allowed.

>>>> On one hand, lists offer a more user-friendly syntax that can better accommodate
>>>> new use cases compared to the current sh:or. On the other hand, allowing lists
>>> > may introduce performance issues.
>>>> If the group does decide in favour of allowing lists, there will be additional
>>>> options to explore (such as simplifying use through node expression functions).
>>>> However, for this vote, I would like to keep the focus on whether they should
>>> > be allowed in the spec at all.

>>>> This is a straw poll to gauge preferences. Please indicate your preferred
>>> > option:

>>> > 1) Lists should be allowed.

>>> > 2) Lists should not be allowed.

>>> I prefer 2 due to the added complexity (cost for tools/learning), overlap
>>> between syntax options and the lack of convincing use cases for ORs including
>>> TripleTerms.

>>> But I could live with option 1 if it's limited to the 4 base kinds and the
>>> majority of people prefers that.

>>> Holger



>>>> The poll will remain open for 10 days, until the WG meeting on July 21st at
>>> > 14:00 CET. Please submit your response before then.


>>> > Kind regards,
>>> > Eliana