COI call Tue 14 Jan meeting record and cancellation 21 Jan

<http://www.w3.org/2014/01/14-hcls-minutes>

   [1]W3C

                                   COI call

14 Jan 2014

   See also: [2]IRC log

Attendees

   Present
          ericP, +1.919.767.aaaa, TimWilliams, Mike_Denny,
          Kerstin_Forsberg, charlie, Sajjad, claude

   Regrets
   Chair
          SV_MEETING_CHAIR

   Scribe
          ericP

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]FDA Therapeutic Area strawman
     * [5]Summary of Action Items
     __________________________________________________________________

FDA Therapeutic Area strawman

   <scribe> scribenick: ericP

   -> [6]http://www.w3.org/2013/12/FDA-TA/ strawman

   charlie_: FDA said the focus on the TA work is efficacy points
   ... obsevations connecting intervention and pathophysioly
   ... obs: normal, outcomes, endpoints

   <kerstin> Charlie talking through
   [7]http://www.w3.org/2013/12/FDA-TA/TA-MetaModel-cmap.png

   charlie_: metamodel is the above model

   ericP: bottom-up abuse of the metamodel, coopted for base classes

   -> [8]http://www.w3.org/2014/Talks/0107-FDA-TA-egp/#(4)

   [9]http://www.w3.org/2014/Talks/0107-FDA-TA-egp/#(2)

   [10]http://www.w3.org/2014/Talks/0107-FDA-TA-egp/#(2)

   Claude: i think of observations as quantitative measurements and the
   thing i do the make the observations
   ... unless obs really means the act of observing, and the result is
   captured elsewhere, this model is potentally confusing
   ... coulld separate the act of observing from the data observed

   charlie_: in early RIM, there was a separation. now Obs is a kind of
   Act with a code.
   ... RIM has substance administration etc.
   ... FDA cares about processes as measured by some generic idea of the
   value of the obs

   Claude: i'm working on models for CDS

   charlie_: FDA is not trying to feed CDS, instead just looking at the
   evidence around effectiveness of intervention

   Claude: we're looking at a CDS ontology, could we interop with this?

   charlie_: we asked that it all be sharable, but note that this will be
   narrow

   ericP: is the distinction useful in CDS?

   Claude: HL7's model for CDS is the Virtual Medical Record
   ... a CDS rule might look at a set of characteristics about a patient
   and fire off a diagnostic procedure

   Sajjad: have you written formal dens?

   charlie_: FDA knows they have to do it

   -> [11]http://www.w3.org/2013/12/FDA-TA/ strawman

   ericP: can two people use variations of a ontology and get useful data
   interop

   [12]http://www.w3.org/2014/Talks/0107-FDA-TA-egp/

   -> [13]http://www.w3.org/2013/12/FDA-TA/ strawman

   charlie: expect ta-specific, ta-group (e.g. commonalities at organ
   level or systemic processes like inflamation), and pan-ta
   ... we need to show FDA that common semantics across TAs will be
   recognizable

   Mike: Q: about Obs -[ AtomicObs, OutcomeAssessment ]

   -> [14]http://www.w3.org/2013/12/FDA-TA/subject-amy.ttl amy gets better

   # Positive outcome

   :subjectsKidneyGraftWithNormalFunction a
   rrej:KidneyGraftOutcomeAssessment ; # a rrej:GraftSurvival ;

   mm: hasObservationTime "2013-10-19T12:34:00Z"^^xsd:dateTime ;
   ... beforeIntervention :subjectsOutpatientGFR10 , :subjectsGFRpreOp ;
   ... intervention :subjectOnExcipiens , :subjectsTransplant ;
   ... afterIntervention :subjectsPostOpDay5GFR ;
   ... hasOutcomeValue rrej:NormalFunctioningGraft .

   Claude: re-usable in the clinical practice feedback loop

   charlie_: determining efficacy of interventions may well require the
   granularity that Claude alluded to before.

Summary of Action Items

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References

   1. http://www.w3.org/
   2. http://www.w3.org/2014/01/14-hcls-irc
   3. http://www.w3.org/2014/01/14-hcls-minutes#agenda
   4. http://www.w3.org/2014/01/14-hcls-minutes#item01
   5. http://www.w3.org/2014/01/14-hcls-minutes#ActionSummary
   6. http://www.w3.org/2013/12/FDA-TA/
   7. http://www.w3.org/2013/12/FDA-TA/TA-MetaModel-cmap.png
   8. http://www.w3.org/2014/Talks/0107-FDA-TA-egp/#(4)
   9. http://www.w3.org/2014/Talks/0107-FDA-TA-egp/#(2)
  10. http://www.w3.org/2014/Talks/0107-FDA-TA-egp/#(2)
  11. http://www.w3.org/2013/12/FDA-TA/
  12. http://www.w3.org/2014/Talks/0107-FDA-TA-egp/
  13. http://www.w3.org/2013/12/FDA-TA/
  14. http://www.w3.org/2013/12/FDA-TA/subject-amy.ttl
  15. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
  16. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
  17. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/
  18. http://www.w3.org/2014/01/14-hcls-minutes.html
  19. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm

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