- From: Tim Clark <twclark@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
- Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:57:45 -0500
- To: Kei Cheung <kei.cheung@yale.edu>
- Cc: Matthias Samwald <samwald@gmx.at>, public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org
That sounds positive, and I was glad to hear that Matthias is committed to working synergistically as well. Tim On Jan 7, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Kei Cheung wrote: > Hi Matthias, Tim, > > I'll be happy to work with both of you to establish synergistic > activities between BioRDF and Scientific Discourse task forces. I > think it might be better coordinated if Tim and I first discuss this. > > Cheers, > > -Kei > > Matthias Samwald wrote: >> >> Hi Tim, >> >> Of course, I will take every measure to coordinate what I am doing >> with the scientific discourse task, as well as the BioRDF and LODD >> tasks. I am trying to participate on all of the conference calls of >> these tasks, even though it can be a bit difficult sometimes. I >> think having an overly strong division between the different tasks >> did not work that well in the last charter of the HCLS IG (where we >> started out with several tasks, which mostly converged to a single >> task during the course of the two years). Therefore I try to follow >> all of the task forces (with the exception of COI in the recent >> months, but that might change). >> >> BioRDF seemed like a better choice for being an official umbrella >> for that work, since it involves the conversion of large amounts of >> biomedical datasets into RDF/OWL, does not involve discourse >> representation (but connects to it) and is not specifically focused >> on drug information. I will discuss and coordinate any part of the >> project that might be relevant for scientific discourse and drug >> information with the Scientific Discourse and LODD task force >> members in the respective conference calls. >> >> Cheers, >> Matthias Samwald >> >> DERI Galway, Ireland >> http://deri.ie/ >> >> Konrad Lorenz Institute for Evolution & Cognition Research, Austria >> http://kli.ac.at/ >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Tim Clark" <twclark@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:14 PM >> To: "Matthias Samwald" <samwald@gmx.at> >> Cc: "kei cheung" <kei.cheung@yale.edu>; <public-semweb- >> lifesci@w3.org> >> Subject: Re: [BioRDF] BioSIOC / aTag task >> >>> Hi Matthias, >>> >>> My concern is not redundancy of content, or of technical >>> implementation, but of potential semantic redundancy and/or >>> mismatch between two formulations of the same basic idea. >>> >>> This problem could arise precisely because the form in which the >>> content is expressed - i.e. scientific assertions - would have >>> different technical implementations, despite being semantically >>> identical at a fundamental level. Therefore I think your >>> proposed work should it be carefully coordinated with SWAN-SIOC >>> both before and during development to ensure alignment - if it is >>> to be part of an official HCLS task. >>> >>> When you initially proposed your idea on the Scientific Discourse >>> call, I felt confident this coordination could occur, if and when >>> the work was started, because it was being done in the same task >>> group as the other Discourse tasks. Now that you have proposed >>> it again in BioRDF, I am not confident this coordination will >>> occur spontaneously unless we make it happen - therefore I >>> suggest you and Kei and I spend some time exploring the >>> ramifications of starting this task in another group and how to >>> achieve alignment. Perhaps Susie could lend a hand in this >>> discussion as well. >>> >>> If it later turns out I am wrong and it turns out, after >>> discussion, that there is no need for any pre-alignment or >>> coordination of your work with the Discourse tasks, we will still >>> have had the chance to understand your ideas better, and have >>> shared our thinking, which is all good. >>> >>> Best >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> On Jan 7, 2009, at 4:33 AM, Matthias Samwald wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Dear Tim, >>>> >>>> The project I have in mind is not redundant with SWAN-SIOC, both >>>> in its technical implementation and the biomedical content that >>>> will be represented. The statements will not have discourse >>>> relationships among themselves, and indeed such relationships >>>> would be better represented through the vocabulary that SWAN can >>>> add to the basic SIOC vocabulary. >>>> This project could also demonstrate the value of the alignment >>>> of SWAN and SIOC, showing that information represented in basic >>>> SIOC can be easily aligned with information represented in the >>>> more expressive SWAN vocabulary, via the SWAN-SIOC alignment. >>>> This is important for demonstrating the advantages gained (in >>>> terms of interoperability) by the SWAN-SIOC alignment. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Matthias Samwald >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Tim Clark >>> Director of Informatics, MassGeneral Institute for >>> Neurodegenerative Disease >>> Instructor in Neurology, Harvard Medical School >>> 617-947-7098 (mobile) >> >> > > > Tim Clark Director of Informatics, MassGeneral Institute for Neurodegenerative Disease Instructor in Neurology, Harvard Medical School 617-947-7098 (mobile)
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