- From: Xiaoshu Wang <wangxiao@musc.edu>
- Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:27:49 +0000
- To: Peter Ansell <ansell.peter@gmail.com>
- CC: "public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org" <public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org>
Peter Ansell wrote: > On 15/11/2007, Mark Wilkinson <markw@illuminae.com> wrote: > >> Xiaoshu, This is a beautiful synopsis of the problem - THANK YOU for >> taking the time to write it up as well as you did! I will be using this >> in my lectures for sure! :-) >> >> What made me chuckle was how similar the DFDF concept is to the LSID >> concept... except that the LSID doesn't rely on any HTTP response codes to >> determine what is what (it's all explicit, since there is no way to ask a >> URI what it is but to query the metadata; and there is no concept of >> content-negotiation in LSIDs since all various representations should be >> referred to explicitly in the metadata... so there are no shortcuts to >> getting the representation that you desire) >> >> Given that we have millions (billions?) of URLs out there in the world, >> isn't it a bit optimistic to assume that they will all suddenly become >> adherent to whatever we decide here? >> >> Personally, I am inclined to place my trust in a Semantic Web where I know >> that the URIs I encounter are guarateed to have the behaviour that I >> expect. If I can't guarantee that from a URL (and I know that I can't), >> then I can at least code my software to be more trusting of other kinds of >> URIs... and non-trusting of URLs... >> >> ...na? >> >> M >> > > Personally I think the plain old HTTP REST proposals which include the > data type in the URL are more valuable than a philosophical statement > about the difference between information and non-information > resources. They do not need to worry about response codes because you > know what you asked for in the URL, by default getting metadata which > provides the information about the other REST url's which will return > different formats. > The data type (Content-Type) is still there, no? Honestly, one of the reasons that I wrote the article is to show that there isn't any difference between Information Resource vs. non-IR. Even if there were, it is a very arbitrary one. What is informational is URI, not resource. I think many of us got it wrong in the past, including myself. > In the case that you actually want to use Semantic Web Enhanced HTML > pages you still have problems but they are not related to definitions > of which resource is which as the paper seems to argue. RDFa, meta > tags and link rel="alternate" seem to be valid solutions for putting > semantics inside HTML. XSLT stylesheets can be used to style RDF into > HTML as an alternative. > > Do you have any scientifically relevant semantics that can't be > represented by enhancing HTML, Well, first, unless we assume that machine can understand human languages, then sure anything written in an HTML can somehow be converted to RDF....but I guess that is not in the near future. > or by using a strictly RDF directing > URL as an identifier with other information being directed to from > there? It is not hard to utilise resources if you know identifiers are > going to return RDF, or HTML pages will have link rel=alternate in > them. > I am kind of lost here....can you use an example? Xiaoshu
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