- From: Kashyap, Vipul <VKASHYAP1@PARTNERS.ORG>
- Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 09:33:29 -0400
- To: "Eric K. Neumann" <eneumann@teranode.com>, "Hongsermeier, Tonya M.,M.D." <THONGSERMEIER@PARTNERS.ORG>, "Eric Prud'hommeaux" <eric@w3.org>
- Cc: <public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org>
I have started a wiki page on clarify the notion of "Process" using examples from various domains. Seems like there is an interest from various participants (OBO lists, BFO Discussion, etc.) to start a wiki page to explore this topic. I think HCLSIG can provide guidance/recommendations on ways of using BFO constructs and input from other communities would be crucial for this. Was wondering if the wiki page: http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/OntologyTaskForce/BFOProcessDefinitionDiscussion could be opened for editing by the public at large and what the W3C policies are regarding this? Cheers, ---Vipul ======================================= Vipul Kashyap, Ph.D. Senior Medical Informatician Clinical Informatics R&D, Partners HealthCare System Phone: (781)416-9254 Cell: (617)943-7120 http://www.partners.org/cird/AboutUs.asp?cBox=Staff&stAb=vik To keep up you need the right answers; to get ahead you need the right questions ---John Browning and Spencer Reiss, Wired 6.04.95 -----Original Message----- From: Smith, Barry [mailto:phismith@buffalo.edu] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 8:34 AM To: Kashyap, Vipul; William Bug; bfo-discuss@googlegroups.com; public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org; obo-relations@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Alan March; Boris Hennig; Pierre Grenon; michael.f.uschold@boeing.com; Alan Ruttenberg; Holger Stenzhorn Subject: Re: Wiki Page: Clarification of BFO Process Definition using a wide variety of use cases Hi, I think Barry has added me to this thread because of the comments about my "Complex Procedures" paper. I hope you don't mind when I post some thoughts about the definitions in the wiki page on processes. 1. Different stages of biological and clinical process can also be executed by different participants, for instance a nurse and a doctor, or a male and a female animal. So this should not be made a defining feature of "computational process" in contrast to the others two. It should be treated as a general option for all kinds of processes. 2. It is important that "computational process" is defined as the execution of a program, and something like this is missing in the definition of "clinical care process." Not everything that is done by clinical staff in the context of health care is also a clinical care process (think of talking, breathing, humming, etc.). What distinguishes clinical care processes from other kinds of thing that nurses, doctors etc. do is that they have a point in the context of health care, and are in some stricter sense part of health care. I think it should be the general form of all those processes which are realizations of realizable entities that they can involve one or more participants. The differences among such process will then lie in: (a) The kind of realizable. Some realizables are specifiable in detail by programs or algorithms, others are less strictly determined by scripts, rules, or norms (such as human actions or clinical procedures), and for some there may be no set of rules in any strict sense, but only a pattern they typically conform to. This distinction thus depends on the ontology of realizables. (b) What the point is. This is how one can distinguish clinical tasks from other tasks, e.g. processes like medical treatment from other processes that may happen in the same context such as talking, breathing, humming. The purpose of talking is (usually) not to cure anyone. I have no idea how a good definition of "biological" process should look like. The following is only an attempt: "Biological Process: a realization of a realizable that is part of the life of some living being." This is far from perfect, since (1) life might also be a biological process, which will make it circular - we would need an independent account of what life is; and (2) not every process in the life of a living being need be a biological process - we need to say more about what it is to be "part of the life" of a living being. Boris The information transmitted in this electronic communication is intended only for the person or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this information in error, please contact the Compliance HelpLine at 800-856-1983 and properly dispose of this information.
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