- From: William Bug <William.Bug@drexelmed.edu>
- Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:43:08 -0500
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Hi All, I wanted to give more "legs" to this discussion point that came up at the end of today's HCLSIG TCon, as I think it's extremely important for us users of RDF & OWL. Sorry - I don't mean to be a "Chicken Little" on this issue - but as someone who needs to make practical technical recommendations to a large bioinformatics infrastructure project, this issue has me concerned. Here is the link to the OWL ED 2006 manuscripts: http://owl-workshop.man.ac.uk/accepted06.shtml I'd particularly recommend absorbing the details given in the following, as I believe these do an excellent job summarizing the justification being given by the developers of the OWL 1.1 spec for this move away from RDF: "Next Steps for OWL" (http://owl-workshop.man.ac.uk/acceptedLong/ submission_11.pdf) "Problems with OWL Syntax" (http://owl-workshop.man.ac.uk/ acceptedLong/submission_13.pdf) "Supporting Early Adoption of OWL 1.1 with Protege-OWL and FaCT+ +" (http://owl-workshop.man.ac.uk/acceptedLong/submission_15.pdf) - describes the new RDF-free version of ProtegeOWL with v1.1 support "The Manchester OWL Syntax" (http://owl-workshop.man.ac.uk/ acceptedLong/submission_9.pdf) "Putting OWL in Order: Patterns for Sequences in OWL" (http://owl- workshop.man.ac.uk/acceptedLong/submission_12.pdf) These each present different aspects of the argument for moving ahead with OWL 1.1 independent of the requirement for the entirety of the normative spec to be expressible in RDF. Just as a footnote, the DIG 2.0 API will include support for OWL 1.1 operators: "Towards a Flexible Interface for Description Logic Reasoners" (http://owl-workshop.man.ac.uk/acceptedLong/submission_3.pdf) As Eric pointed out, there has been considerable discussion of this move by members of the SemWeb community - e.g.: http://lists.mindswap.org/pipermail/owl/2005-December/000097.html http://www.mindswap.org/blog/2006/11/13/11-alternative/ There has also been some attempt by OWL developers to ease the transition: http://owl1_1.cs.manchester.ac.uk/rdf_mapping.html As Eric said, some of the limitations, as opposed to be limits to the expressivity of RDF per se, are based on constraints imposed by RDFS and/or an RDF/XML representation - which as we all know is only ONE WAY of expressing RDF triplets. However, I'd point out, in the last document, where they describe a mapping of OWL 1.1 to RDF, they make the following caveat: Not every OWL 1.1 ontology can be serialized in RDF. In particular, ontologies using the following features of OWL 1.1 cannot be serialized: 1. punning and 2. annotations on axioms. My understanding is some of these constraints (and other listed in the papers from the OWL ED meeting last week) are limited to RDFS, but I don't believe that is true of all of the constraints that - as they say - make some OWL 1.1 constructs inexpressible in RDF. I'm far from an expert in the formal under-pinnings, however, so this is a question for the experts to answer. I would add, the latter is one of the most valuable additions to the OWL 1.1 spec that runs right up against all the RDF/RDFS constraints imposed on annotations in OWL. Those of us building ontologies in OWL & RDF recognize the need in the scientific domain to track the "evidence" for any ontological assertion. Many projects - SWAN & Bio- Zen are good examples - are very much ABOUT formally tracking data provenance and distilling it into evidence-supported ontological assertions. I know from trying to use AnnotationProperties in the BIRNLex ontology, OWL 1.0 has very serious problems, when it comes to supporting the required links to "evidence". The GO folks know this well, too, as "evidence codes" have always been at the heart of GO based annotations. In fact, Chris Mungall and others have been working toward developing a more generic means of providing this capability to those both developing and using OBO Foundry-based ontologies. Anyway - I think this is an important topic for us to consider - one for which - on this list - we have the ears of the experts - both in the design and use of OWL & RDF - who can help us all get a clearer sense of what the practical impact will be on our use of OWL & RDF. I think Alan Ruttenberg and Jonathan Rees in particular - and many others I'm certain - have some insight to offer based on the work they've been doing. Cheers, Bill Bill Bug Senior Research Analyst/Ontological Engineer Laboratory for Bioimaging & Anatomical Informatics www.neuroterrain.org Department of Neurobiology & Anatomy Drexel University College of Medicine 2900 Queen Lane Philadelphia, PA 19129 215 991 8430 (ph) 610 457 0443 (mobile) 215 843 9367 (fax) Please Note: I now have a new email - William.Bug@DrexelMed.edu
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