- From: Pat Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us>
- Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:44:49 -0500
- To: "Phillip Lord" <Phillip.Lord@newcastle.ac.uk>
- Cc: <wangxiao@musc.edu>, "public-semweb-lifesci" <public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org>
> > >I've seen a number of largish ontologies generated >by hand in OWL (and originally DAML+OIL). The problem >is one of syntax. The XML representation of OWL is >fairly long winded and hard to read. I'm less than >convinced that it's appropriate for (editing) a large ontology. > Absolutely. Human beings should never have to see XML. To this end, we have developed an OWL viewer/editor called COE which uses an entirely graphical GUI based on CMapTools, a system based on 'concept maps', ie node-arc-node graphs. The CmapTools interface is simple enough for grade school kids to use. It takes maybe a day to learn the various COE conventions for expressing OWL meanings. COE can only handle medium-sized ontologies (c. 2K concepts) in its current incarnation - larger ones slow down the Java swing graphics rendering too much, an issue we plan to work on for the next release - and its a little flaky, but feel free to play with it. You can get it from http://coe.ihmc.us/. (Go to 'shared ontologies'/IHMC Public Cmap Ontologies/Sample Ontologies to see a whole lot of examples that have been rendered using COE, all from published OWL ontologies. For a quick guide to use, theres a slide presentation at http://homam.ihmc.us/modules.php?name=Examples.) Pat Hayes >I understand your point about OO style ontologies. I've >seen this also (probably been guility of it as well). >But getting people to write long hand ontologies seems >a less good option than writing tutorials and providing >good examples of non OO style ontologies! > >Perhaps if there were a simpler, more human writable >syntax, this might be easier, but as it stands writing >by hand doesn't seem a great thing to me. > >Of course, editors have always been a religious >issue! I'd be surprised if ontology developers shared >any more consensus on this issue than programmers >do on IDE's. > >Cheers > >Phil > > > > >________________________________ > >From: public-semweb-lifesci-request@w3.org on behalf of wangxiao >Sent: Fri 14/10/2005 18:52 >To: 'public-semweb-lifesci' >Subject: RE: Tools > > > > >-Eric, > >> Helen's point is a very good one. >> >> At the risk of stating what may or may not be obvious to all, >> there are several *general* tools that are focused on helping >> people create ontologies that may be useful. In no >> particular order ... > >Here is my two cents on the topics. > >I actually hold a bit different opinion on this. I think at the beginning >stage, one should try to do hand editing. I played around with Protégé >before, I think because of historic reasons, it uses a lot of terms in >semantic network. I saw a lot of people discussing ontologies using "slot", >"roles", etc. I don't have any grudge on protégé, which I think is a great >software. But this sort of dialect is not healthy to advance SW >technologies. And I also that see many ontologies are developed with an OO >thinking. Doing it manually actually helps to understand the technology, at >least that is my experience. But of course, tool is useful to speed things >up but only when people knows what the tool are doing for them. > >Xiaoshu -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- IHMC (850)434 8903 or (650)494 3973 home 40 South Alcaniz St. (850)202 4416 office Pensacola (850)202 4440 fax FL 32502 (850)291 0667 cell phayesAT-SIGNihmc.us http://www.ihmc.us/users/phayes
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