- From: Rushforth, Peter (NRCan/RNCan) <peter.rushforth@canada.ca>
- Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 13:38:55 +0000
- To: "Tandy, Jeremy" <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk>
- CC: "public-sdwig@w3.org" <public-sdwig@w3.org>, Scott Simmons <ssimmons@opengeospatial.org>, Francois Daoust <fd@w3.org>, "ted@w3.org" <ted@w3.org>, Linda van den Brink <l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl>
Hi Jeremy, Thanks for incorporating that idea. Looks good! Cheers, Peter Peter Rushforth Technology Advisor Canada Centre for Mapping and Earth Observation Natural Resources Canada / Government of Canada peter.rushforth@canada.ca / Tel: 613-759-7915 Conseiller technique Centre canadien de cartographie et d'observation de la Terre Ressources naturelles Canada / Gouvernement du Canada peter.rushforth@canada.ca / Tél: 613-759-7915 > -----Original Message----- > From: Tandy, Jeremy <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk> > Sent: July 18, 2019 7:36 AM > To: Rushforth, Peter (NRCan/RNCan) <peter.rushforth@canada.ca>; Linda > van den Brink <l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl> > Cc: public-sdwig@w3.org; Scott Simmons <ssimmons@opengeospatial.org>; > Francois Daoust <fd@w3.org>; ted@w3.org > Subject: RE: Rechartering the SDW-IG after December 2019 > > Hi Peter - thanks for your feedback and comments. > > I think that the proposed terms of reference would cover the sharing of > information on complementary strengths. Your suggestion is to make that a > little more explicit. > > I've updated the proposed terms of reference to reflect your comment: see > https://github.com/w3c/sdw/blob/gh-pages/rechartering.md and > particularly > https://github.com/w3c/sdw/commit/a454b877e52018aa1480140d464e681 > e9cfe80cd#diff-4667e319ac80d9779de9b13ad3efcc4e for the commit with > the change. > > How information about complementary strengths is shared is a little unclear. > But I think that engagement with the W3C TAG / OAB and through the staff > contacts would be a good start: > > > respond requests from OGC Architecture Board (OAB) and W3C Technical > Architecture Group (TAG) to review materials relating to geospatial Web > standards, and bring relevant matters to the attention of the OAB and TAG - > [possibly via a quarterly slot on their agendas?]. > > ... > > SDW-IG will have a designated staff contact from both OGC and W3C. > > Have I captured the essence of your feedback? > > Thanks, Jeremy > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rushforth, Peter (NRCan/RNCan) <peter.rushforth@canada.ca> > Sent: 17 July 2019 15:22 > To: Tandy, Jeremy <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk>; Linda van den Brink > <l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl> > Cc: public-sdwig@w3.org; Scott Simmons <ssimmons@opengeospatial.org>; > Francois Daoust <fd@w3.org>; ted@w3.org > Subject: RE: Rechartering the SDW-IG after December 2019 > > Hi Jeremy and Linda, > > Looks good to me. On the other hand, I have comments. :-) > > > what should it's terms of reference > > be? > > In my mind, the SDWIG has always been about the webification of OGC > standards and the spatialization of Web standards. But perhaps that's too > ambitious at the moment. > > We have been focusing on individual standards developments, whereas I > think SDWIG provides a good opportunity to talk about aspects of standards > and standards development that relate to both organizations. Thinking about > the strengths that the two organizations bring to the SWDIG, perhaps we can > still craft a re-chartering to leverage complementary strengths and hence > provide advice to both. > > W3C: Web scale architecture (domain independence), accessibility, privacy, > internationalization, performance, intersecting WHATWG / W3C > membership, Community Groups program, ... > > OGC: geospatial domain experts and expertise, crowdfunding / Innovation > program, stable usable standards that are widely implemented, intersecting > global SDI-Open Data / OGC membership ... > > I think growing and improving the list of strengths of the other side should be > in scope, through the activities and advice of the SDIWG. > > Two meetings per year is appropriate, especially including one at an OGC > venue and one at TPAC, I think. > > Thanks for asking. > > Cheers, > Peter > > > Peter Rushforth > > Technology Advisor > Canada Centre for Mapping and Earth Observation Natural Resources > Canada / Government of Canada peter.rushforth@canada.ca / Tel: 613-759- > 7915 > > Conseiller technique > Centre canadien de cartographie et d'observation de la Terre Ressources > naturelles Canada / Gouvernement du Canada peter.rushforth@canada.ca / > Tél: 613-759-7915 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tandy, Jeremy <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk> > > Sent: July 12, 2019 6:57 AM > > To: public-sdwig@w3.org; Linda van den Brink > > <l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl>; Scott Simmons > > <ssimmons@opengeospatial.org>; Francois Daoust <fd@w3.org>; > > ted@w3.org > > Subject: Rechartering the SDW-IG after December 2019 > > > > Hello SDW-IG folks... > > > > The Spatial Data on the Web Interest Group will expire on 31-Dec-2019 as > > per its Charter [1] > > > > There positive impact of collaboration between OGC and W3C is well > > recognised. The SDW-IG has been successful over the last 2-years in > > coordinating between OGC and W3C, and connecting people with potential > > collaborators and stakeholders. However, experience shows that work > items > > of the SDW-IG largely remain "one-task, one-person". Other than review, > > there has been very limited group-interaction on work items. We conclude > > that the format of SDW-IG isn't well suited to engage collaborators on work > > items. Existing mechanisms are available to generate critical mass to > develop > > proposals and contribute to work items: W3C has Community Groups > (which > > require a proposer plus 5 supporting members to establish); OGC has the > > Innovation Programme and Domain Working Groups. > > > > Note that the policies of both OGC and W3C state that standards must be > > developed within a Standards Working Group (SWG) specifically chartered > > for that purpose. As such, the SDW-IG cannot develop standards itself; > > instead it can support the development of a proposal to the point where a > > Charter for a SWG is sufficiently mature and has adequate support. > > > > So - should SDW-IG continue and, if so, what should it's terms of reference > > be? Linda and I have synthesised the conversation during the face-to-face > > meeting in Leuven - here's what we heard (plus some sensible additions) ... > > > > We, as chairs of the SDW-IG, think the SDW-IG should be re-charted, and > for > > it to remain as a separate group (i.e. not merged into another groups such > as > > the OGC Geosemantics DWG). Draft terms of reference for the re-chartered > > group are provided below. > > > > Please can we have feedback by end of July so that we can continue the > > discussion and iterate toward a suitable new Charter? > > > > Many thanks and best regards, Jeremy & Linda. > > > > --- > > > > SDW-IG will: > > * coordinate between OGC and W3C on shared interests (i.e. geospatial > Web > > standards) - monitoring and, where necessary, liaising between groups > from > > OGC and W3C. > > * identify areas where standards should be developed jointly by both W3C > > and OGC. > > * respond requests from OGC Architecture Board (OAB) and W3C Technical > > Architecture Group (TAG) to review materials relating to geospatial Web > > standards, and bring relevant matters to the attention of the OAB and TAG > - > > [possibly via a quarterly slot on their agendas?]. > > * periodically review the OGC Innovation Programme ideas issue tracker [2] > > to identify and prioritise important ideas relating to the geospatial Web > > standards. > > * periodically review the OGC Technology Trends [3]. > > * provide a forum where early ideas for geospatial Web standards can be > > shared in an open, public forum (e.g. as a GitHub issue) until they migrate > > into a Community Group, Domain Working Group or Testbed activity for > > further development (see below). > > * provide introductions between originators of ideas for geospatial Web > > standards and potential collaborators and stakeholders in OGC and W3C. > > * seek out existing forums (e.g. W3C Community Group, OGC Domain > > Working Group, OGC Testbed / Innovation Programme) where ideas for > > geospatial Web standards can be developed to the point where they are > > mature enough to Charter a SWG; where no existing forums are a good fit, > > SDW-IG will support establishment of the most appropriate forum in OGC > or > > W3C (development of the idea will occur within the designated group > where > > resources such as mailing lists and GitHub repositories will be provided). > > * maintain references to the working resources of designated groups > where > > ideas for geospatial Web standards are being developed, and track > progress > > of development using the W3C's "strategy funnel" [4]. > > * provide support to develop SWG Charters and help determine whether > the > > SWG should reside in OGC or W3C, or be a joint SWG. > > * manage errata for: Spatial Data on the Web Best Practices, Time > Ontology, > > SSN/SOSA Ontology, SSN/SOSA Extensions and any other documents > > published by the SDW-WG and SDW-IG. > > > > SDW-IG will largely work by correspondence (e.g. via mailing list and > GitHub > > issues), complemented by face-to-face meetings (e.g. 2 per year?) and ad- > > hoc teleconferences (e.g. to discuss / review new ideas for geospatial Web > > standards). > > SDW-IG can publish OGC Discussion Papers, OGC White Papers, OGC Best > > Practices and W3C Notes - subject to the appropriate approvals processes. > > SDW-IG will have a designated staff contact from both OGC and W3C. > > > > [1]: https://www.w3.org/2017/sdwig/charter.html > > [2]: https://github.com/opengeospatial/ideas/issues > > [3]: https://github.com/opengeospatial/OGC-Technology- > > Trends/blob/master/README.md > > [4]: https://github.com/w3c/strategy/labels/Geospatial
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