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[Minutes] Stats on the Web BP subgroup call - 2018-01-10

From: Francois Daoust <fd@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 21:47:11 +0100
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Hi all,

The minutes of today's Statistical Data on the Web Best Practices subgroup call are available at:
https://www.w3.org/2018/01/10-sdw-minutes.html
... and copied as raw text below.

Bill shared the work plan and milestones document he prepared, which seemed ok for participants in the call:
https://github.com/w3c/sdw/blob/gh-pages/stats-bp/work-plan.md

Current task is to finalize the list of use cases by the upcoming F2F end of February:
https://github.com/w3c/sdw/blob/gh-pages/stats-bp/draft-use-case-list.md

With apologies for the WebEx hiccup. I will list the WebEx coordinates for the different calls on the group's homepage to serve as reference. I still encourage subgroup chairs to include these coordinates in the agenda they sent to the mailing-list before the meeting.

Thanks,
Francois

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Stats on the Web BP Call
10 January 2018

   [2]Agenda [3]IRC log

      [2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdwig/2018Jan/0011.html
      [3] https://www.w3.org/2018/01/10-sdw-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Andrea_Parago, Bill_Roberts, Chris_Little,
          Evangelos_Kalampokis, Francois_Daoust,
          Joseph_Abhayaratna, marqh, Michael_Gordon

   Regrets

   Chair
          Bill

   Scribe
          tidoust

Contents

     * [4]Meeting Minutes
         1. [5]Work plan for Stats subgroup
         2. [6]Draft use cases list

Meeting Minutes

Work plan for Stats subgroup

   billroberts: Short call today as I'm in lovely Heathrow
   terminal 5, and about to board.

   <billroberts> [7]Work plan and milestones

      [7] https://github.com/w3c/sdw/blob/gh-pages/stats-bp/work-plan.md

   billroberts: In the plenary, Jeremy advised subgroups to make
   plans about what we might want to achieve and by when
   … I put together a document on GitHub
   … with main milestones of what I think we need to achieve in
   the group.
   … I'd like to get people's thoughts about milestones and tasks.
   I went until summer, at which point I think we should have a
   first public working draft
   … We have quite some time after that. At least until end of
   2018
   … First thing is our use cases document. About 10 use cases for
   now. I need to add some details on some of them. Others can be
   added.
   … Nearly final version of the use cases document should be
   ready by our upcoming F2F end of February. About 6 weeks away
   from now.
   … That seems doable to me.
   … Then it's worth analysing the use cases and deriving
   requirements, and then tying these together and publish that as
   a working draft. That would take us to end of April.
   … I then suggest a further month to flesh out a list of best
   practices, and a couple of months after that to write details.

   billroberts: That's my proposal, any thoughts on that?

   josephabhayaratna: That looks OK to me.

   tidoust: Just to note that you don't "have to" publish the use
   cases and requirements doc as a First Public Working Draft. It
   can remain an informal document on GitHub.

   billroberts: OK, good to know that we can save some overhead
   there.

Draft use cases list

   <billroberts> [8]Use case list

      [8] https://github.com/w3c/sdw/blob/gh-pages/stats-bp/draft-use-case-list.md

   billroberts: Some from Chris Little, some from me, and another
   one added recently.
   … It starts to look reasonably sensible
   … I'd like you to review the list, and provide feedback. This
   is very much a dynamic document. If you have problem has issues
   with GitHub, just let us know, Francois and I will be happy to
   help
   … Please add your own thoughts in that document

   <marqh> [9]https://github.com/w3c/sdw/pull/994/files

      [9] https://github.com/w3c/sdw/pull/994/files

   marqh: In terms of workflow, I don't have edit rights on the
   document, but I just created a request for change to add new
   use case.
   … My sense from going through the use cases is that I'm
   interested in the level of details. The use cases I see are at
   quite an abstract level, and I wonder if it would be useful to
   talk about more practical use cases such as the one I've just
   posted.
   … Is what I just linked sensible in terms of details?

   billroberts: I'm very open here. Specific use cases are good in
   general. For now, we shouldn't be too worried about the style.
   Just stick your ideas in there, and we'll try to harmonize
   things later on.
   … Let's not be too particular about what goes in there. I'll
   merge that pull request later on.

   marqh: Last comment is that I was quite keen about what we
   might want as an output. For instance "I want to download a
   graph as RDF". I'll leave that in there for the moment. To be
   discussed later on.

   <billroberts> chris I initially shared the wrong link - try
   [10]https://mit.webex.com/mit/
   j.php?MTID=m8796f88f95b74286ab85e2c1e6ec54cc

     [10] https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m8796f88f95b74286ab85e2c1e6ec54cc

   Francois: Happy to give edit rights to anyone, but note pull
   requests seem like a good process to follow to me.

   AndreaPerego: Looking at the use cases that have been collected
   so far, my impression is that there are specific to statistical
   data published everywhere. Making best practices for
   statistical data published on the Web would be good. It may be
   worth making comparisons with the current Data on the Web BP,
   to identify best practices that we can promote.

   <ChrisLittle> +1 to referencing DWBP

   AndreaPerego: For instance, if you publish CSV, provide
   alternative versions, such as some RDF serialization.
   … Making statistical data more friendly for search engines for
   instance.

   <billroberts> [11]https://github.com/w3c/sdw/blob/gh-pages/
   stats-bp/examples-of-good-practice.md

     [11] https://github.com/w3c/sdw/blob/gh-pages/stats-bp/examples-of-good-practice.md

   billroberts: The other document I created is rather empty but
   meant to contain existing best practices
   … That can help us giving some concrete things to talk about.
   … Do please add examples to that document as well.
   … Please take a bit of time over the next few weeks to look at
   these documents and contribute.

   billroberts: Any other business?

   <MichaelGordon> Nothing from me

   <ChrisLittle> nothing from me

   billroberts: OK, let's continue online then. Let's aim to have
   another call in two weeks from now (24 January 2018)
   … Thanks for joining!
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