RE: comments on comparison of CoverageJSON and TimseriesML

Hi Jon,
 
Please do and let me know once that is done. Since there was general support and no objection to publishing the CoverageJSON document, I will proceed with the publication request of the final WG Note afterwards.
 
Thanks,
Francois.
 
From: Jon Blower [mailto:j.d.blower@reading.ac.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 11:05 AM
To: Little, Chris <chris.little@metoffice.gov.uk>; Bill Roberts <bill@swirrl.com>
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Subject: Re: comments on comparison of CoverageJSON and TimseriesML
 
Thanks Chris!
 
Bill, if it’s not too late I can make the change that Chris suggests, and I’ve also noticed another small correction (“at” should be “with” in the last sentence). Shall I go ahead?
 
Cheers,
Jon
 
 
From: Chris Little <chris.little@metoffice.gov.uk <mailto:chris.little@metoffice.gov.uk> >
Date: Thursday, 6 July 2017 10:02
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Subject: RE: comments on comparison of CoverageJSON and TimseriesML
 
Jon, Bill, 
 
A little bit late, as I was off line while I was in Canada and only now back at work. Jon’s text is fine and accurate.
 
Perhaps to convey the richness of the 13 ‘interpolation types’ of TimeseriesML, “or average of a quantity” could read “, average or several other functions of a quantity”.
 
And +1 to publish.
 
Chris
 
From: Jon Blower [mailto:j.d.blower@reading.ac.uk] 
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 4:27 PM
To: Bill Roberts; Little, Chris
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Subject: Re: comments on comparison of CoverageJSON and TimseriesML
 
Hi Bill,
 
Yes, I have now created a PR for this. It would be useful if Chris could double-check it. Here is the new text for his convenience:
 
“CoverageJSON can be used to record data that take the form of timeseries, for example measurements of flow rate in in a river, or average London rainfall over time. [TimeseriesML] specializes in recording such data and provides some features that are not provided in CoverageJSON. For example, in TimeseriesML, richer metadata can be added to better describe the data values being measured (the range) and their relationship to time (the domain). For example, a data value in the range may be defined to represent an accumulation, maximum, minimum or average of a quantity over time, and the time values in the domain may be defined to mark the start, end or middle of the time period in question. In CoverageJSON, this level of description is not yet possible.
 
Version 1.0 of TimeseriesML (the current version at the time of writing) does not permit the association of multiple parameters at each data point, whereas this is permitted in CoverageJSON.”
 
Cheers,
Jon
 
 
From: Bill Roberts <bill@swirrl.com <mailto:bill@swirrl.com> >
Date: Wednesday, 21 June 2017 18:21
To: Chris Little <chris.little@metoffice.gov.uk <mailto:chris.little@metoffice.gov.uk> >
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Subject: Re: comments on comparison of CoverageJSON and TimseriesML
 
Chris - many thanks for that.  Jon - are you happy to make the corresponding small tweaks to the document? 
 
Cheers
 
Bill
 
On 21 June 2017 at 16:04, Little, Chris <chris.little@metoffice.gov.uk <mailto:chris.little@metoffice.gov.uk> > wrote:
Jon,
 
“Not yet” is the best answer – the SWG has been re-chartered and started work again to do precisely this, but I’ve not seen much progress, but then I was not at Delft.
 
Chris
 
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Subject: Re: comments on comparison of CoverageJSON and TimseriesML
 
Hi Chris,
 
That’s very helpful, thanks. So do I understand correctly from your final comment that TimeseriesMLv1 does *not* permit the recording of multiple parameters at each data point? This may be worth mentioning as a point of comparison.
 
(What is the current version of TimeseriesML by the way?)
 
Cheers,
Jon
 
 
 
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Date: Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:50
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Subject: RE: comments on comparison of CoverageJSON and TimseriesML
 
Bill,
 
Sorry to take so long to get around to this.
 
The paragraph is fine, but I suggest making “accumulation or average” read “accumulation, maximum, minimum or average” to give a wider indication of the 13 possible ‘interpolation types’.
 
I think it a hostage to fortune to mention work in progress for TimeseriesML V2 (multiple parameters at each data point/time)
 
Chris
 
From: Bill Roberts [mailto:bill@swirrl.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 8:32 AM
To: Little, Chris; Jon Blower; public-sdw-wg@w3.org <mailto:public-sdw-wg@w3.org> 
Subject: comments on comparison of CoverageJSON and TimseriesML
 
Hi Chris
 
In the SDW call on Wednesday night, the folks Scott and Armin suggested to me that you might be the ideal person to assist Jon and I with one final small task on the CoverageJSON document.
 
Section 6.3 of the document http://w3c.github.io/sdw/coverage-json/#ogc-timeseriesml makes some comparisons between TimeseriesML and CoverageJSON but neither Jon nor I feel very confident in our knowledge of TimeseriesML.  Would you mind looking at that short section and checking it for accuracy?  Also, if you have any suggestions for additional points of comparison that we should include, please do go ahead and suggest!
 
I hope that wouldn't take you too long and would allow us to wrap up the final open issue on the doc.  Is that something you'd have time to do over the next few days?
 
Many thanks
 
Bill