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Re: QB4ST final issues

From: Bill Roberts <bill@swirrl.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 22:22:58 +0100
Message-ID: <CAMTVsukgpHr+8R-LQ_QaxigkZvC5JXAiMMbMZA88bE=xG5_zHw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Rob Atkinson <rob@metalinkage.com.au>
Cc: SDW WG Public List <public-sdw-wg@w3.org>, Francois Daoust <fd@w3.org>
Thanks Rob - I'll do some minor edits and make a PR in the next day or two

On 15 August 2017 at 21:55, Rob Atkinson <rob@metalinkage.com.au> wrote:

> Thanks Bill and Francois
>
> I agree with these final cleanups and happy for you to implement them.
>
> FYI Am meeting today with Geoscience Australia and will discuss future
> implementation plans and further trajectory through OGC and W3C processes.
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> On 16 Aug 2017 12:44 AM, "Bill Roberts" <bill@swirrl.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Francois and Rob
>
> I have just merged an old PR that was still outstanding: https://github.co
> m/w3c/sdw/pull/756
>
> It looked fine to me, though possible that it may need a further update?
>
> Also I looked at your re-formatting PR Francois https://github.com/w3
> c/sdw/pull/932
> That looks good to me and happy for you to merge it
>
> However Francois in your mail https://lists.w3.org/Arch
> ives/Public/public-sdw-wg/2017Jun/0080.html you raised a question about
> where we put the definition of the QB4ST ontology, and made a suggestion of
> how to solve it that Rob agreed with.
>
> So that still needs to be implemented as far as I can tell.  I am happy to
> make that change if you are both still ok with that?
>
> And the doc still lists issue 129 as open.  In https://lists.w3.org/Archiv
> es/Public/public-sdw-wg/2017Jun/0064.html I suggested we just get rid of
> that issue as the work it might potentially refer to did not reach a
> sufficiently advanced stage in the work of the group.  Do you both agree
> with that?
>
>
> Thanks - nearly there!  If we can tidy these things up then we should be
> able to propose to the group that we release the final draft of this.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill
>
>
> On 7 July 2017 at 15:16, Francois Daoust <fd@w3.org> wrote:
>
>> Rob, Bill,
>>
>> I note that there is still a pending Pull Request on the QB4ST
>> specification (from me):
>> https://github.com/w3c/sdw/pull/932
>>
>> Can it be merged?
>>
>> Also note the proposal below to add a note to make section 6 "Vocabulary
>> Reference" explicit that the normative definition of the QB4ST ontology is
>> to be found in the qb4st.ttl file, and that the spec only contains
>> excerpts. Could you look into it?
>>
>> We should be able to issue a final call for consensus to publish QB4ST as
>> a final Working Group Note once that is done.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Francois
>>
>>
>> > From: François Daoust [mailto:fd@w3.org]
>> > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 6:26 PM
>> >
>> >
>> > Le 19/06/2017 à 17:39, Rob Atkinson a écrit :
>> > > Thanks Francois
>> > >
>> > > I agree with your suggestion - ideally we would have worked examples
>> of
>> > > every defined term too - so I think we should add such a note and also
>> > > note that as a "work in progress" not all terms are fully described.
>> >
>> > +1!
>> >
>> >
>> > > What would be really nice is a way to pull the definitions from the
>> .ttl
>> > > file into a table in the spec - to avoid inevitable editing
>> > > synchronisation issues - is this possible ?
>> >
>> > I do not know if such a conversion tool exists already (perhaps others
>> > know?) but that seems doable. That said, we need to wrap-up the spec
>> > within the next few days, so I guess I would stick to the note for
>> now...
>> >
>> > Francois.
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Rob
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 at 00:48 François Daoust <fd@w3.org
>> > > <mailto:fd@w3.org>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >     Hi Rob, Bill,
>> > >
>> > >     I prepared a pull request to improve Turtle code sections in the
>> > >     document, see:
>> > >     https://github.com/w3c/sdw/pull/932
>> > >
>> > >     That pull request uses a different color scheme for the bits that
>> define
>> > >     the ontology and the bits that link to examples, in particular.
>> > >
>> > >     This begs a question though: where is the QB4ST ontology
>> normatively
>> > >     defined? Using my W3C glasses, I would have expected to find that
>> > >     definition in the spec. However, I see the "qb4st.ttl" file
>> contains a
>> > >     few classes whose definitions do not appear in the spec, such as
>> > >     "qb4st:RefAreaMeasure", "qb4st:TemporalComponentSpecification" or
>> > >     "qb4st:SpatialDimensionComponentSpecification".
>> > >
>> > >     I would suggest to make section 6 "Vocabulary Reference" explicit
>> that
>> > >     the normative definition of the QB4ST ontology is to be found in
>> the
>> > >     qb4st.ttl file, and that the spec only contains excerpts.
>> > >
>> > >     Francois.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >     Le 14/06/2017 à 19:23, Bill Roberts a écrit :
>> > >     > Hi Rob
>> > >     >
>> > >     > I've edited section 6.4 of QB4ST to insert a short note about
>> the
>> > >     > intention to add an example here in future - but have left that
>> > >     section
>> > >     > there, so no numbering changes arise.
>> > >     >
>> > >     > There are still 2 open issues in the document:
>> > >     >
>> > >     > ISSUE 129
>> > >     > Insert appropriate form of reference to SDW work if available
>> to fill
>> > >     > this gap
>> > >     >
>> > >     > If I remember correctly, that was there in case some of the
>> work on
>> > >     > Geosparql extensions went far enough to define the kinds of base
>> > >     spatial
>> > >     > concepts you had in mind.
>> > >     >
>> > >     > Since that hasn't yet got to the point of a formal document we
>> could
>> > >     > refer to, then I'm guessing this issue should just be removed,
>> because
>> > >     > there isn't yet a suitable reference.
>> > >     >
>> > >     > I'm happy to make that change, but do I understand correctly
>> what you
>> > >     > intended?
>> > >     >
>> > >     > Thanks
>> > >     >
>> > >     > Bill
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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