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Re: ssn: readying for WD publication SSN EDITORS please read

From: Krzysztof Janowicz <janowicz@ucsb.edu>
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 08:40:18 -0800
To: Kerry Taylor <kerry.taylor@anu.edu.au>, Armin Haller <armin.haller@anu.edu.au>, Krzysztof Janowicz <jano@geog.ucsb.edu>, "Le Phuoc, Danh" <danh.lephuoc@tu-berlin.de>
Cc: SDW WG Public List <public-sdw-wg@w3.org>
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Hi Kerry,

Thanks for bringing this up.

As pointed out before, I would be happy to take the lead on the 
SOSA-core integration into the main document.

As far as naming is concerned, I would hope we can stay with SOSA-core 
or just SOSA. SSN as acronym is missing the observation and actuation 
part but puts emphasis on networks which is something that we  have not 
really addressed in that much detail. Using a different name is also a 
good way of reminding people that this is something new (and different 
than, say, the SSO).

Best,
Krzysztof


On 11/08/2016 05:22 PM, Kerry Taylor wrote:
>
> Please see current draft here: http://w3c.github.io/sdw/ssn/ 
> <http://w3c.github.io/sdw/ssn/>. Some of the issues still  recorded 
> there have since been resolved – and I will update to reflect that. 
> But the REALLY BIG ISSUE  is:
>
> There is NO sosa-core in that draft.  To get it there, heavily 
> marked-up with known issues we need at the very least both (a) and (b)
>
> (a)Choice of an automated documentation tool. We cannot use LODE again 
> as extensively discussed already.  This is needed for both the ssn as 
> well as the sosa-core extensions. Someone suggested Parrot but Danh 
> found it failed for ssn.  A TopBraid tool looks nice – can we use it 
> without hindrance?.  There is a dated list here 
> https://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Generating_HTML_documentation_of_OWL 
> but many of these are broken. This one might work : 
> http://code.google.com/p/co-ode-owl-plugins/wiki/OWLDoc 
> <http://code.google.com/p/co-ode-owl-plugins/wiki/OWLDoc>  and also 
> here http://neon-toolkit.org/wiki/Download/2.5.2.html  and here is an 
> example 
> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/92862c7b2e3c/ontology/DocExamples/OWLDOC/index.html 
> but it might be broken too. Specgen seems popular enough and this is 
> the best version I can spot: 
> https://smiy.wordpress.com/2010/07/13/my-specgen-version-6/  with 
> examples there. This need not be a binding decision for the next WD (I 
> actually think we might end up doing some stuff by hand, as Danh 
> suggests, but I am not going to be the bunny that does that by 1 
> December). I can probably get hold of the stuff Laurent built for the 
> ssn-xg but surely there must be  better out there by now? Can someone 
> point to exactly what we need, please?
>
> (b)A name for SOSA-core  --- my vote: simply “ssn core” or “core”. I 
> would have all its terms  in the same namespace as the rest of ssn and 
> owl:import it into the rest  of ssn ontology , but even then it needs 
> a name for the core ontology and also an ontology iri.   Even if the 
> exact relationship is an issue, it still needs a name  before WD. I 
> will not vote in favour of a WD if we have not agreed on a name.
>
> Editors, If you are making changes to the ed draft PLEASE PLEASE 
> PLEASE  ensure  you update the change history in Section B. It will be 
> near-impossible to fill this in later on, and I am not going to 
> attempt it.
>
> --Kerry
>


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