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Re: ssn "not machine readable"

From: Armin Haller <armin.haller@anu.edu.au>
Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 00:10:35 +0000
To: "Simon.Cox@csiro.au" <Simon.Cox@csiro.au>, "janowicz@ucsb.edu" <janowicz@ucsb.edu>, "s.kolozali@surrey.ac.uk" <s.kolozali@surrey.ac.uk>, Kerry Taylor <kerry.taylor@anu.edu.au>
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And particularly important for our modularisation!

From: "Simon.Cox@csiro.au<mailto:Simon.Cox@csiro.au>" <Simon.Cox@csiro.au<mailto:Simon.Cox@csiro.au>>
Date: Wednesday, 18 May 2016 9:23 am
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Subject: RE: ssn "not machine readable"
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Resent-Date: Wednesday, 18 May 2016 9:24 am

I agree with Krzysztof. Global rdfs:domain restrictions are particularly limiting.
Contextual (guarded) restrictions are usually plenty helpful.
Simon

From: Krzysztof Janowicz [mailto:janowicz@ucsb.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, 18 May 2016 8:54 AM
To: s.kolozali@surrey.ac.uk<mailto:s.kolozali@surrey.ac.uk>; kerry.taylor@anu.edu.au<mailto:kerry.taylor@anu.edu.au>
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Subject: Re: ssn "not machine readable"

Hi,

I do not understand how the lack of global domain and range restrictions make SSN not machine readable. Also, there are many good reasons not to include global range and domain restrictions (and for adding guarded restrictions instead).

Best,
Krzysztof

On 05/17/2016 03:39 PM, s.kolozali@surrey.ac.uk<mailto:s.kolozali@surrey.ac.uk> wrote:
Hi Kerry,

    This was a problem that I had faced when I had to parse and map the SSN ontology (along with a many other ontologies) into SAOPY library that I have developed (http://iot.ee.surrey.ac.uk/citypulse/ontologies/sao/saopy.html). What I observed back then was the SSN ontology was missing all the domain and range restrictions for object properties. I had stated this problem to you in an e-mail and you had told me that it was simply due to the fact that "SSN ontology is using global restrictions instead of local restrictions". To solve this issue, I had to add all the domain and range restrictions of object properties one by one by going through and reading the comments in the SSN ontology. I am happy to send my local SSN copy to you "if you are interested in", which can save you a lot of time.

An excerpt the SSN ontology:
    <!-- http://purl.oclc.org/NET/ssnx/ssn#detects -->

    <owl:ObjectPropertyrdf:about="&ssn;detects">
        <rdfs:label>detects</rdfs:label>
        <rdfs:seeAlso>http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Skeleton#Skeleton</rdfs:seeAlso>
        <rdfs:comment>A relation from a sensor to the Stimulus that the sensor can detect.
The Stimulus itself will be serving as a proxy for (see isProxyOf) some observable property.</rdfs:comment>
        <rdfs:isDefinedBy>http://purl.oclc.org/NET/ssnx/ssn</rdfs:isDefinedBy>
    </owl:ObjectProperty>


An excerpt from my local copy of the SSN ontology:
    <!-- http://purl.oclc.org/NET/ssnx/ssn#detects -->

    <owl:ObjectPropertyrdf:about="&ssn;detects">
        <rdfs:label>detects</rdfs:label>
        <rdfs:seeAlso>http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Skeleton#Skeleton</rdfs:seeAlso>
        <rdfs:comment>A relation from a sensor to the Stimulus that the sensor can detect.
The Stimulus itself will be serving as a proxy for (see isProxyOf) some observable property.</rdfs:comment>
        <rdfs:isDefinedBy>http://purl.oclc.org/NET/ssnx/ssn</rdfs:isDefinedBy>
        <rdfs:domainrdf:resource="&ssn;Sensor"/>
        <rdfs:rangerdf:resource="&ssn;SensorInput"/>
        <rdfs:rangerdf:resource="&ssn;Stimulus"/>
    </owl:ObjectProperty>

Although it sounds like a fairly simple and straight forward issue, it causes lots of issues when one attempts to parse and use the SSN ontology in an automated way. The text written in the form of rdfs:comments are helpful for people but local restrictions are more helpful for machine interpretation.

Cheers,

Sefki Kolozali
Research Fellow
Institute for Communication Systems (ICS), home of the 5G Innovation Centre
University of Surrey
Guildford, Surrey, GU2 7XH, United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0)1483 689490

E-mail: s.kolozali@s<mailto:s.kolozali@qmul.ac.uk>urrey.ac.uk<http://urrey.ac.uk>
http://www.surrey.ac.uk/ics/<http://www.surrey.ac.uk/ccsr/>





On 17 May 2016, at 23:11, Kerry Taylor <kerry.taylor@anu.edu.au<mailto:kerry.taylor@anu.edu.au>> wrote:

Hi Sefki,

Can you please explain further what you meant about failure of  “machine readability” with ssn as raised in the meeting today? Before that, can you do your test with this ssn herehttps://www.w3.org/ns/ssn/  as it seems likely to me that dul could have been the source of trouble and this is the new  (FPWD) version with dul removed.

Kerry





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