[Minutes-SSN] 2016-03-22

The minutes of today's SSN sub group meeting are at 
https://www.w3.org/2016/03/22-sdwssn-minutes with a text snapshot below.

Nothing substantive on this occasion as it took a long time to negotiate 
a time for future calls that everyone can make - from West Coast USA to 
Sydney.


                       SDW SSN Sub Group bi-weekly

22 Mar 2016

    [2]Agenda

       [2] https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Meetings:SSN-Telecon20160322

    See also: [3]IRC log

       [3] http://www.w3.org/2016/03/22-sdwssn-irc

Attendees

    Present
           ClausStadler, JRamsay, Kolozali, Sefki,
           SefkiKolozali_UniS_, SimonCox, ahaller2, kerry, phila,
           joshlieberman

    Regrets
    Chair
           Kerry

    Scribe
           KJanowicz

Contents

      * [4]Topics
          1. [5]Time changes
          2. [6]world time changes
      * [7]Summary of Action Items
      * [8]Summary of Resolutions
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    <phila> trackbot, help

    <trackbot> Please see
    <[9]http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.

       [9] http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc

    <ahaller2> i can't connect

    <ahaller2> even not to phil's link

    <phila> trackbot, associate this channel with #swd

    <trackbot> Sorry, but #swd has no configuration.

    <phila> trackbot, associate this channel with #swd

    <trackbot> Sorry, but #swd has no configuration.

    <phila> trackbot, associate this channel with #sdw

    <trackbot> Associated this channel with #sdw.

    <phila> '/invite trackbot'

    i can do it

    <ahaller2> i still can not connect, not through the phone
    number either

    <kerry> scribe: KJanowicz

    <kerry> Scribenick: KJanowicz

    Can somebody add me to the webprotege ssn version or point me
    to the right link

    <kerry> armin, meeting number is 647 066 501

    <ahaller2> it does not wokr

    The pw is at the top line of this chat

    @ahaller2: can you please give me editing rights on the ssn at
    webprotege?

    <phila> kerry: Joel Ramsay is here from ANU who will be doing
    some work around IoT Lite

    <JRamsay> Can you not hear me?

    No

    <JRamsay> Okay, I'll work on that here.

    <SimonCox> present?

    <SimonCox> present

    <phila> kerry: Sefki from Uni Surrey, works with Payam

    Kerry: Sefki joint the group working on the SSN

    <SimonCox> who is here?

    <joshlieberman> webbed pw?

    <joshlieberman> ...webex

    Likely me

    <kerry> patent call:
    [10]https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call

      [10] https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call

Time changes

world time changes

    Kerry: we already changed the meeting time for the main meeting
    of the entire group.
    ... what about the SSN meeting?

    I would hope we can stay at the time we had

    <joshlieberman> hakim, code?

    <joshlieberman> hakim, code?

    Can't we stay with the times we agreed on before?

    Kerry can you post the timeanddate link?

    <ahaller2> 1:00pm utc

    This time would not work for me

    <phila>
    [11]http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SD
    WWG+Call&iso=20160406T13&ah=1

      [11] 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160406T13&ah=1

    What is wrong with the times we agreed on recently?

    <phila> Next SSN Meeting will be at
    [12]http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SD
    WWG+Call&iso=20160405T13&ah=1

      [12] 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T13&ah=1

    <SimonCox>
    [13]http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=
    20160322&p1=152&p2=195&p4=263&p5=224

      [13] 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20160322&p1=152&p2=195&p4=263&p5=224

    <phila> Which is 23:00 in Canberra

    <phila> Europe changes this weekend

    <phila> (Last weekend in March)

    <SimonCox> Look at this:
    [14]http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=
    20160406&p1=152&p2=195&p4=263&p5=224

      [14] 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20160406&p1=152&p2=195&p4=263&p5=224

    <phila> KJanowicz: Can everyone get their fair share of
    suffering, i.e. make it late Tuesday/early Wednesday

    <ahaller2> i prefer later at night

    <phila> phila: As a European, I am lucky - all times work for
    us :-)

    <ahaller2> if that helps Krzysztof

    <JRamsay> As anAussie, I would prefer 1pm UTC, but as a newbie,
    Ill go with what you guys choose.

    yes 2pm would already help me a lot

    I cannot hear josh very well

    +1

    would the time right now work for all of us?

    kerry: this would be 6am for you and 12/1 for the us west coast

    <phila>
    [15]http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SD
    WWG+Call&iso=20160405T14&ah=1

      [15] 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T14&ah=1

    That would also work for me

    7am

    We already have the main meeting at 6am pacific so it would be
    great to have the ssn meeting at another time

    <phila> PROPOSAL 1:
    [16]http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SD
    WWG+Call&iso=20160405T14&ah=1

      [16] 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T14&ah=1

    <phila> PROPOSAL
    2:www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&
    iso=20160405T13&ah=1

    phila: listing proposals for meeting times for ssn meeting

    <ahaller2> +1 for Proposal 1

    <SefkiKolozali_UniS_> 14:00 UTC is fine with me. It seems like
    it is 15:00PM in the UK.

    <SimonCox> Proposal 3 -
    [17]http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?y
    ear=2016&month=4&day=6&hour=20&min=0&sec=0&p1=152&p2=195&p3=263
    &p4=224

      [17] 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2016&month=4&day=6&hour=20&min=0&sec=0&p1=152&p2=195&p3=263&p4=224

    <phila> PROPOSAL 3:
    [18]http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SD
    WWG+Call&iso=20160405T20&ah=1

 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T20&ah=1

    +1 for proposal 3

    I can also survive proposal 1

    <SimonCox> +1 for #3

    <kerry> +1 for prop 2

    <JRamsay> +1 for proposal 2

    <joshlieberman> +1 for 1,2, or 3

    <kerry> 2nd choice proposal 3

    <ahaller2> I think proposal 2 was ruled out

    <SefkiKolozali_UniS_> +1 for proposal 1,2

    <ahaller2> for the benefit of KJanowicz

    thx

    <SimonCox> Can't we use Doodle for this instead of taking time
    during call?

    <joshlieberman> KJanowicz -- recruit 3 more participants?

    i tried but they dropped out due to the meeting times, e.g.,
    Karl

    <ahaller2> kerry you vote for ANU

    <ahaller2> it only works if you screw the europeans

    <SimonCox>
    [19]http://doodle.com/poll/qv27iwwvfxzr2bzzng43aedy/admin#table

      [19] http://doodle.com/poll/qv27iwwvfxzr2bzzng43aedy/admin#table

    <SimonCox> [20]http://doodle.com/poll/qv27iwwvfxzr2bzz

      [20] http://doodle.com/poll/qv27iwwvfxzr2bzz

    ahaller2: ah, I see

    <joshlieberman> 21h UTC?

    <ahaller2> 11PM UTC works well for SYD and SFO

    <phila> 21h UTC would be
    [21]http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SD
    WWG+Call&iso=20160405T21&ah=1

      [21] 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T21&ah=1

    it would work for me

    kerry it would be 8am for you

    same heree

    <ClausStadler> for me all the times so far worked (europe)

    <kerry>
    [22]http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SD
    WWG+Call&iso=20160405T20&ah=1

      [22] 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T20&ah=1

    21h UTC would be
    [23]http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SD
    WWG+Call&iso=20160405T21&ah=1

      [23] 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T21&ah=1

    PROPOSAL 4:
    [24]http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SD
    WWG+Call&iso=20160405T21&ah=1

      [24] 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T21&ah=1

    <SimonCox> [25]http://doodle.com/poll/qv27iwwvfxzr2bzz

      [25] http://doodle.com/poll/qv27iwwvfxzr2bzz

    So, can we agree on the 21 UTC

    Based on the poll (7 1 1) it looks like 21 UTC, right?

    Thank you very much Sefki

    decision: new meeting time is 21 UTC

    <kerry> decision:
    [26]http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SD
    WWG+Call&iso=20160405T21&ah=1

      [26] 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T21&ah=1

    RESOLUTION: SSN Meetings will take place at
    [27]http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SD
    WWG+Call&iso=20160405T21&ah=1 until end October

      [27] 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SDWWG+Call&iso=20160405T21&ah=1

    not so far

    <ahaller2> i did

    kjano

    <ahaller2> you mean do it jeremy's way on the wiki?

    <joshlieberman> Editing on branches allows changes to be
    reviewed before merging...

    +1

    Can we draft on the wiki? as we did for the ssn xg.

    <joshlieberman> +1 to Github procedure -- gets easier as more
    documents get developed that way.

    Agreement to use the Github procedure

    Kerry to post github instructions

    <joshlieberman> bye

    bye bye

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

     1. [28]SSN Meetings will take place at
        http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SD
        WWG+Call&iso=20160405T21&ah=1 until end October

    [End of minutes]
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