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Re: ACTION-85 Use Case

From: Frans Knibbe <frans.knibbe@geodan.nl>
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:48:53 +0200
Message-ID: <CAFVDz437s6bsY84NfA5epdu51MX-5TW3-z7XFnkOVHsPWybB5w@mail.gmail.com>
To: Bart van Leeuwen <bart_van_leeuwen@netage.nl>
Cc: "SDW WG (public-sdw-wg@w3.org)" <public-sdw-wg@w3.org>
Hi Bart,

If you are good with the proposal I will make the change in the UCR
document. Just say the word... Or would you like to see some changes in the
proposed new use case?

Regards,
Frans

On 15 August 2016 at 16:45, Bart van Leeuwen <bart_van_leeuwen@netage.nl>
wrote:

> Hi Frans,
>
> I think this is a great modification, is there a place where I can edit
> this ?
>
> Met Vriendelijke Groet / With Kind Regards
> Bart van Leeuwen
>
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> From:        Frans Knibbe <frans.knibbe@geodan.nl>
> To:        Bart van Leeuwen <bart_van_leeuwen@netage.nl>
> Cc:        "SDW WG (public-sdw-wg@w3.org)" <public-sdw-wg@w3.org>
> Date:        21-01-2016 12:04
> Subject:        Re: ACTION-85 Use Case
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Hi Bart,
>
> Here is a proposal for a merged use case:
>
> *Using spatial data during emergency response operations*
>
> *Emergency response services in the Netherlands use SDIs to help manage
> large scale incidents. Predefined geographical data from their GIS
> warehouses can be used, but incidents and accidents are by nature
> unpredictable so it is impossible to determine beforehand which data are
> needed. In-house data need to be supplemented with data from other sources
> based on ad-hoc requirements. Typically, supplemental data are available
> through WxS services. This poses several problems:*
> 1.        *Third party data lack semantics in the sense of the Web of
> data. Under the umbrella of various projects a first attempt has been made
> to at least share definitions of the terminology used by various emergency
> response services, both national and cross border. This resulted in the
> start of a project called the **Firebrary* <http://www.firebrary.com/>*.
> Now the terminology and definitions are available on the Web as linked data
> as SKOS. Still linking from the spatial data to these definitions and vice
> versa is not standardized. Publication of web semantics with spatial data
> would improve discoverability of applicable data and facilitate linking
> data from separate sources.*
> 2.        *It is not possible to predefine relationships between Web data
> and data exposed through WxS services (rdfs:seeAlso is considered by many
> to be too limited).*
> 3.        *It is not easy to share all data related to an incident as Web
> data.*
>
> *Being able to plot and exchange data about active incidents through the
> Web and visualize them in GIS tools with open standards would be a huge
> leap forward for emergency response services.*
>
> *Related deliverables: best practices*
>
> *Related requirements:* *Compatibility with existing practices*
> <https://www.w3.org/TR/sdw-ucr/#Compatibility>*,  **Discoverability*
> <https://www.w3.org/TR/sdw-ucr/#Discoverability>*,  **Spatial metadata*
> <https://www.w3.org/TR/sdw-ucr/#SpatialMetadata>*,  **Linkability*
> <https://www.w3.org/TR/sdw-ucr/#Linkability>*, **Spatial relationships*
> <https://www.w3.org/TR/sdw-ucr/#SpatialRelationships>
>
> I changed the title a bit so that it better covers the use case. Also, I
> have added the Spatial relationships requirement to the list of related
> requirements.
>
> About that: the bit that I have not included yet is about types of
> relationships. In the existing use case it says "*A related issue is that
> the relation between the data in the GIS warehouses is only spatial, while
> most of the time there is an administrative relation as well.*"
>
> Which GIS warehouse do you mean in this case? The GIS warehouses of the
> emergency response services or those of the third parties whose data you
> would like to use? And how is not possible to have administrative relations
> now?
>
> Regards,
>
> Frans
>
>
> 2016-01-16 18:39 GMT+01:00 Bart van Leeuwen <*bart_van_leeuwen@netage.nl*
> <bart_van_leeuwen@netage.nl>>:
> Hi Frans,
>
> I'm sorry that I've missed this email.
>
> What I tried to explain is this, currently the emergency response services
> only use GIS services available in their GIS Warehouse ( feel free to use
> standard terms ).
> However during incidents there might be spatial data available at 3rd
> parties, this data could be in a external SDI or even in Web Data.
> Currently there is no easy way to find the data and integrate the web
> based spatial data
>
> The second part of the problem is that the spatial data which is presented
> does not contain any form of semantics as explained in my second submission.
> So even if we would be able to find and use external data ( both GIS / Web
> ) we have no clue what it exactly means.
>
> Met Vriendelijke Groet / With Kind Regards
> Bart van Leeuwen
>
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> From:        Frans Knibbe <*frans.knibbe@geodan.nl*
> <frans.knibbe@geodan.nl>>
> To:        Bart van Leeuwen <*bart_van_leeuwen@netage.nl*
> <bart_van_leeuwen@netage.nl>>
> Cc:        "SDW WG (*public-sdw-wg@w3.org* <public-sdw-wg@w3.org>)" <
> *public-sdw-wg@w3.org* <public-sdw-wg@w3.org>>
> Date:        28-12-2015 14:46
> Subject:        Re: ACTION-85 Use Case
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Hello Bart,
>
> In the process of trying to merge the two texts I came across something
> that seems inconsistent. In the existing use case it says* "During
> emergency response operations in the Netherlands the only spatial data
> available to emergency response services are the predefined data in their
> GIS warehouses"* and in the new text it says* "During those incidents
> they *[emergency response services]* will use a wide variety of spatial
> data created and curated by third parties"*.
>
> Are the predefined data in the GIS warehouses of the emergency response
> services the same as spatial data created and curated by third parties? Or
> are they different data sources? I hope you can clarify this.
>
> Greetings,
> Frans
>
>
>
>
> 2015-12-26 13:46 GMT+01:00 Bart van Leeuwen <*bart_van_leeuwen@netage.nl*
> <bart_van_leeuwen@netage.nl>>:
> Hi Frans,
>
> Sounds good to me!
>
> Met Vriendelijke Groet / With Kind Regards
> Bart van Leeuwen
>
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>
> From:        Frans Knibbe <*frans.knibbe@geodan.nl*
> <frans.knibbe@geodan.nl>>
> To:        Bart van Leeuwen <*bart_van_leeuwen@netage.nl*
> <bart_van_leeuwen@netage.nl>>
> Cc:        "SDW WG (*public-sdw-wg@w3.org* <public-sdw-wg@w3.org>)" <
> *public-sdw-wg@w3.org* <public-sdw-wg@w3.org>>
> Date:        21-12-2015 12:10
> Subject:        Re: ACTION-85 Use Case
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Hello Bart,
>
> Shall I propose a merged text for the use case here in this thread?
>
> Regards,
> Frans
>
> 2015-12-13 12:29 GMT+01:00 Bart van Leeuwen <*bart_van_leeuwen@netage.nl*
> <bart_van_leeuwen@netage.nl>>:
> Hi Frans,
>
> Sorry, I seem to have missed this email completely.
>
> Having just one use case who covers it all is fine for me.
> How would you like to proceed on this ?
>
> Met Vriendelijke Groet / With Kind Regards
> Bart van Leeuwen
>
> ##############################################################
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>
> From:        Frans Knibbe <*frans.knibbe@geodan.nl*
> <frans.knibbe@geodan.nl>>
> To:        Bart van Leeuwen <*bart_van_leeuwen@netage.nl*
> <bart_van_leeuwen@netage.nl>>, Alejandro Llaves <*allaves@fi.upm.es*
> <allaves@fi.upm.es>>
> Cc:        "SDW WG (*public-sdw-wg@w3.org* <public-sdw-wg@w3.org>)" <
> *public-sdw-wg@w3.org* <public-sdw-wg@w3.org>>
> Date:        08-12-2015 13:55
> Subject:        Re: ACTION-85 Use Case
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
>
> Hello Bart,
>
> I realise this use case describes something not entirely covered by *the
> existing emergency response use case*
> <http://w3c.github.io/sdw/UseCases/SDWUseCasesAndRequirements.html#UsingSpatialDataFromTheWebInGISSystemsDuringEmergencyResponseOperations>,
> but do you think we could try to merge the new use case description with
> the use case already in the document? As far as I can tell, the related
> deliverable is Best Practices in both cases and requirements following from
> the use cases seem to be the same too.
>
> Regards,
> Frans
>
>
>
> 2015-11-22 21:26 GMT+01:00 Bart van Leeuwen <*bart_van_leeuwen@netage.nl*
> <bart_van_leeuwen@netage.nl>>:
> Hi all,
>
> As discussed on the call last week.
> ACTION-85 is about best practices on linking WxS with linked data, I
> created a use case to explain why this is important.
>
> Use Case.
>
> Emergency response services use SDI's to help manage large scale
> incidents. During those incidents they will use a wide variety of Spatial
> data created and currated by 3rd parties. Although the data provided by
> these 3rd parties is available through standard WxS services, these
> services lack the semantics of the thematic data. Currently there is no way
> for a WxS service to expose the semantics of the features it provides in a
> web of data way.
> If WxS services could be extended to provide the references to the
> semantic meaning of the features, the usabilty of these 3rd party services
> will greatly increase.
> By exposing the feature data as web data it should in the same time
> increase the discoverabilty of this data.
>
> Requirement:
>
> Link traditional WxS features to their web data counterparts
>
>
> Met Vriendelijke Groet / With Kind Regards
> Bart van Leeuwen
>
> ##############################################################
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>
>
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>
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