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RE: Requirements from UC-19

From: Svensson, Lars <L.Svensson@dnb.de>
Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 16:17:09 +0000
To: Alejandro Llaves <allaves@fi.upm.es>
Cc: "public-sdw-wg@w3.org" <public-sdw-wg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <24637769D123E644A105A0AF0E1F92EF010CF665DA@dnbf-ex1.AD.DDB.DE>
Hi Alejandro,

> the definition of vague locations should be covered now with the following
> requirement: Spatial vagueness [1]

Thanks for adding this. My original use case is when you transcribe historic sources and stumble over text like "just north of Los Angeles" [2]. A good historian would put quite some effort into finding out exactly where this was, but sometimes you just have to declare yourself defeated (sometimes because the point of reference cannot be located) and then a standard way of doing this comes in handy.

Another case is the cataloguing of historic maps. Here it can be hard to determine exactly what area the map covers and cataloguers usually enter a not that the coordinates they supply are only approximations. I think this is covered by [1], too.

[1] http://w3c.github.io/sdw/UseCases/SDWUseCasesAndRequirements.html#SpatialVagueness

[2] http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/04/16/quake-north-of-los-angeles/25862247/ (which isn't a historic source, but still transports the point...)

(Apologies for being silent for a while...)

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alejandro Llaves [mailto:allaves@fi.upm.es]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 5:45 PM
> To: Svensson, Lars
> Cc: public-sdw-wg@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Requirements from UC-19
> 
> Hi Lars,
> 
> the definition of vague locations should be covered now with the following
> requirement: Spatial vagueness.
> 
> Regards,
> Alejandro
> 
> On 5 May 2015 at 11:36, Alejandro Llaves <allaves@fi.upm.es> wrote:
> Hi Lars,
> 
> I have checked the requested existing requirements in the spreadsheet for your
> use case Publishing cultural heritage data. The new requirement you suggested
> for Coverage is related to representing uncertain spatio-temporal data. This is
> partially covered in the Time deliverable ("It must be possible to describe time
> points and intervals in a vague, imprecise manner", tab Time, column C). For
> the spatial uncertainty, I am wondering if you have cases of uncertain/fuzzy
> coverage data or the problem is just on referencing vague locations in space. In
> case of the latter, this could be covered with the requirement at tab Coverage,
> column M. Otherwise, we can discuss whether a new requirement is needed.
> 
> Best regards,
> Alejandro
> 
> On 29 April 2015 at 23:05, Andrea Perego <andrea.perego@jrc.ec.europa.eu>
> wrote:
> Hi, Frans.
> 
> > [snip]
> >
> > As for time, I do not yet see a requirement like the Spatial Metadata
> > requirement for temporal data, but I think there could be. I can think of
> > temporal extent, temporal resolution and temporal reference systems. Well,
> > the temporal reference system is a separate requirement in the spreadsheet
> > (column H).
> 
> Just to note that we do have a metadata-related use case including
> temporal resolution and temporal reference systems in the
> requirements. It's the in Section 4.42:
> 
> http://w3c.github.io/sdw/UseCases/SDWUseCasesAndRequirements.html#h-

> geospatialextensionstodomainindependentmetadataschemas
> 
> The requirements are listed in the UC description.
> 
> BTW, these are still open issues in the work on GeoDCAT-AP described
> by the UC. The GeoDCAT-AP WG is currently maintaining an XSLT to
> transform ISO 19139 metadata records into RDF, and mappings for the
> metadata elements under discussion are still missing (along with the
> one concerning CRSs):
> 
> https://webgate.ec.europa.eu/CITnet/stash/projects/ODCKAN/repos/iso-19139-

> to-dcat-ap/
> 
> >From what reported by members of the GeoDCAT-AP WG, it is apparent
> that many organisations dealing with spatial data and their
> publication on cross-domain data catalogues are using provisional
> approaches to deal with this problem, while waiting for the
> publication of best practices.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Andrea
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Alejandro Llaves
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> Artificial Intelligence Department
> Universidad Politécnica de Madrid
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> 
> http://www.oeg-upm.net/index.php/phd/325-allaves

> 
> allaves@fi.upm.es
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Alejandro Llaves
> Ontology Engineering Group (OEG)
> Artificial Intelligence Department
> Universidad Politécnica de Madrid
> Avda. Montepríncipe s/n
> Boadilla del Monte, 28660 Madrid, Spain
> 
> http://www.oeg-upm.net/index.php/phd/325-allaves

> 
> allaves@fi.upm.es
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